From kde-core-devel  Wed Oct 12 06:42:52 2011
From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= <mgraesslin () kde ! org>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 06:42:52 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit
Message-Id: <1376942.o220lZaoxe () martin-desktop>
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On Wednesday 12 October 2011 08:26:20 Torgny Nyblom wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 October 2011 20.54.42 Thomas L=C3=BCbking wrote:
> > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:02:32 +0200
> >=20
> > schrieb Torgny Nyblom <nyblom@kde.org>:
> > > Screensaver is bling only
> >=20
> > No, "screensaver hacks are bling only", a "screensaver" is a
> > software relic.
>=20
> (Semantics)
>=20
> > The key aspect is "when and why is there eye-candy".
> > You can still run all scsreensavers to look at them, they're just
> > ordinary single window applications.
> > You can even run them fullscreen. No problem.
> >=20
> > BUT: running them automatically because you're away and the system =
is
> > idle is simply not a justifiable (anymore),
>=20
> Why? I like this feature.
We have to design software which suits the majority of our users. On a =
mailing=20
list like kde-core-devel I had hoped to not get answers like "I like th=
is=20
feature". You are also a developer and I am sure that you have consider=
ed in=20
the past to remove a feature which other people liked, but you had to r=
emove=20
it for various reasons.

But as said as long as you are on X you can always just run xscreensave=
rs to=20
get your animations. You can also start VLC in fullscreen mode or write=
 a=20
small wrapper for the new to be written QML based animations in the scr=
een=20
locker.
>=20
> > and that was the concept of a
> > "screensaver" which was just 10 years ago, but is no way today
>=20
> Agreed.
>=20
> > - and on
> > battery driven systems actually must be tagged stupid, sorry.
>=20
> But on non battery powered devices?
even there we should have our defaults to protect the environment by tu=
rning=20
off the screen and keeping the CPU in the lowest level. As well we shou=
ld not=20
give the users the wrong feeling that they need a screen "saver" to sav=
e their=20
screen. Whatever we will call the new animations in the screen locker i=
t will=20
not be a "saver".

Cheers
Martin
>=20
> /Regards
> Torgny

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