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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)
From:       Alexander Neundorf <neundorf () kde ! org>
Date:       2011-08-22 20:07:16
Message-ID: 201108222207.16445.neundorf () kde ! org
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On Saturday 20 August 2011, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> On Saturday, 20 de August de 2011 10:02:31 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 08:58:02PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > > frameworks (qt-based), applications and workspace, that sounds pretty
> > > much what the KDE Platform is. What are you excluding in your
> > > definition?
> > > 
> > > kded, klauncher, kdeinit, kglobalaccel, kwallet?
> > 
> > yes, among other things.
> > 
> > kded's module activation is redundant with systemd.
> 
> But not at all the same impact. Starting an application and negotiating its
> connection to D-Bus is hardly comparable to loading a plugin in a daemon
> that is already connected.
> 
> > as it happens, lennart also made a mini-daemon dealing with host name
> > changes, which is another thing kded does.
> 
> kdontchangethehostname
> 
> > klauncher is conceptually redundant with systemd as well. the backend it
> > uses is kdeinit, which *should* be in systemd - it's not like it would
> > not benefit gnome as well (otherwise there would be no maemo booster) -
> > we just need some fresh numbers to justify the hack, and some arguments
> > why the hack isn't *that* bad after all.
> 
> That I agree: klauncher is systemd for KDE only, so we should see about
> getting the same benefits from systemd instead.
> 
> There are two drawbacks with that, though:
> 
> 1) systemd will not likely ever run on non-Linux systems, not even the
> BSDs. Lennart simply isn't interested on ensuring compatibility and might
> even reject patches which introduce differences to Linux-specific
> behaviour.

Wouldn't that also make us require Linux systems which actually run systemd ?
I guess Slackware would be out then.

Alex
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