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On Monday, 2011-07-25, Ben Cooksley wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Martin Gr=E4=DFlin <mgraesslin@kde.org> =
wrote:
> > On Monday 25 July 2011 15:57:16 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> >> >> Otherwise our users will be the ones who will suffer.
> >> >=20
> >> > I really doubt anyone is going to 'suffer'... This NamingClashCrisis
> >> > is more
> >>=20
> >> They will. As an example, KMyMoney users for instance depend on System
> >> Settings to be able to set their locale, and therefore the default
> >> currency, date format, etc.
> >=20
> > In that case KMyMoney has to depend on systemsettings and has to become=
 a
> > workspace application which I think the workspace coordinators will
> > rightfully refuse. If this is a must have configuration for KMyMoney it
> > has to add the KCM to its own configuration options. In comparison you
> > are also able to configure Phonon from within Amarok.
> >=20
> > If you think that systemsettings is a required runtime dependency for
> > other applications, then systemmsettings should move from kde-workspace
> > to kde-runtime.
>=20
> I didn't choose it to be a runtime dependency. Ideally it wouldn't
> have to be. It became a "defacto" requirement as applications for KDE
> are usually developed under KDE, therefore developers don't know to
> add all the needed panels to their application.

While it is true that KDE application developers are usually not concerned=
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about which panels of system settings control infrastructure behavior they =
are=20
using, adding the panels to the applications is IMHO not always the correct=
=20
approach.

On the example of user default locale, there is almost certainly some way o=
f=20
configuring that with the running workspace's tools, i.e. always configured=
=20
outside the apps for all apps.

Cheers,
Kevin
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Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring

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