On 25 July 2011 07:18, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > Thomas Zander wrote: > >>On Monday 25 July 2011 07.49.17 Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> I haven't seen anything in any mailing list posts that is nearly as >>> aggressive  as knowningly reusing a name that was in use like >>> systemsettings. >> >>Please don't assume that was an agressive act. >> >>I can totally see that someone that goes with the assumption that a >>piece of >>software is only usable on one desktop won't have problems if you call >>a >>similar piece of software the same on your desktop. >> >>In general; please stop assuming ;)  (ask politely first) > > It was stated up front that Gnome was aware of the naming conflict when they did it and there was zero advance communication, so I don't think I'm assuming anything. Scott, yes you are assuming. The fact is that Gnome used the same name as KDE for their user-visible configuration app. There is no evidence however that they did so to aggressively and intentionally cause conflict. They probably just thought it was a good name. You seem to have a deep mistrust of Gnome that in the absence of evidence you interpret Gnome's actions as malicious instead of being done in good faith. A similar event happened years ago except that KDE took Gnome's name. Gnome had its System Monitor by 2002, ksysguard was renamed to System Monitor 4.5 years later. Notably, neither app has its OnlyShowIn key set so this is actually the very same problem (except that both apps effectively do the same thing which isn't the case for systemsettings). http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-system-monitor/commit/?id=a2ef5a0d37719f8610045508c33fec6d8dccf06b http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/ksysguard/gui/ksysguard.desktop?r1=548992&r2=589532&pathrev=961381 There's no evidence to believe that KDE was trying to cause a conflict then, nor is there any evidence that Gnome is doing that now. Unproven allegations like these encourage the criticized party to get defensive and start attacking back, or just not want to listen. Please look for solutions instead of conspiracies. Jeremy Bicha