From kde-core-devel  Tue Jul 26 00:38:11 2011
From: Ryan Rix <ry () n ! rix ! si>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:38:11 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings"
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On Mon 25 July 2011 06:53:28 Alvaro Soliverez wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Martin Gr=E4=DFlin <mgraesslin@kde.o=
rg> wrote:
> > On Monday 25 July 2011 15:57:16 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> >> >> Otherwise our users will be the ones who will suffer.
> >> >=20
> >> > I really doubt anyone is going to 'suffer'... This
> >> > NamingClashCrisis is more>>=20
> >> They will. As an example, KMyMoney users for instance depend on Sy=
stem
> >> Settings to be able to set their locale, and therefore the default=

> >> currency, date format, etc.
> >=20
> > In that case KMyMoney has to depend on systemsettings and has to be=
come
> > a workspace application which I think the workspace coordinators wi=
ll
> > rightfully refuse. If this is a must have configuration for KMyMone=
y it
> > has to add the KCM to its own configuration options. In comparison =
you
> > are also able to configure Phonon from within Amarok.
> Be senseful, please. Any application that depends on locale settings
> needs a way to set that correctly.
>=20
> I can tell the user to open a terminal, run kcmshell4 somethings, and=

> make the required change. Or, I can tell to open Systemsettings,
>  and adjust locale settings.

Or you could embed the locale settings KCM in the KMyMoney settings dia=
logs.=20
KCMs are nice for a reason, and that reason is integration.=20

So that IMPROVES your user experience, because instead of having to ope=
n some=20
OTHER application, you tell them to open the KMyMoney configuration dia=
logs.

r

> BTW, this is a very common support situation, and personally, I will
> very deeply hate the person responsible for making it even more
> difficult to support my users under a different, which we do have, an=
d
> a lot of them.
>=20
> So, it's not a matter that there is an alternative way to do it. It's=

> the matter that so far, it was very easy to point them to a solution,=

> and now it's not.
>=20
> And existing solution on forums and otherwise, now won't work.
>=20
> And all that just because they chose a name that has been in use for
> over 4 years by their closest partner.
>=20
> So, as an application developer, you can bikeshed all you want, but a=
t
> the end of the day, Gnome devs have made my life more difficult.
>=20
> Regards,
> Alvaro
>=20
> KMyMoney development team
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