On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Ambroz Bizjak wrote: > Hi Mark, > have you seen my proposed improvement on your suggestion? > > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=131149560119520&w=2 > > I suggest that you consider it, because it would avoid having to > update the Freedesktop specification and any DE that doesn't name its > programs differently in other DEs (e.g. Xfce). > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Mark wrote: >> 2011/7/24 Ben Cooksley : >>> Dropping GNOME out of this, as it seems quite clear they aren't >>> interested in co-operating at all. Which is fairly typical for them, >>> they're insular and only care for themselves. >>> >>> In any case, we need a short term solution to this. Basically, we are >>> going to have to provide a different name under GNOME, because >>> otherwise  GNOME users will complain to distros, who will patch GNOME >>> to ignore System Settings (I refuse to acknowledge their app). >>> >>> A long term solution, sharing settings isn't even counted, as they are >>> bound to screw us over yet again in some way. They are not to be >>> trusted. >>> Adding the panels apps need to them isn't exactly workable either due >>> to the number of applicable panels and apps. >>> >>> As was proposed earlier, System Settings would call itself "System >>> Settings" under KDE, but would prefix "KDE" to the name under all >>> other environments. ie. KDE System Settings under xfce. >>> >>> I have recieved objections that this collides with the "branding >>> policy" however. Given such an objection, what do those of you who >>> object propose? >>> A solution must be reached, otherwise it is the users of our >>> applications who will ultimately suffer - and we will probably get >>> blamed for it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ben Cooksley >>> System Settings Maintainer >>> >> >> Hi Ben, >> >> Could you read and comment on my proposal: >> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=131142514605051&w=2 >> I would like to implement this in the spec, KDE en Gnome, but i need >> some pointers on where i should make such edits and to get it >> approved. >> >> I think that is the most sane solution that doesn't require multiple >> desktop files. >> >> If you agree on this, what do i need to do next? >> Just some guesses.. >> - Propose the updated standard in the freedesktop mailing list (which one?) >> - Make patched for KDE (which component? where? file?) >> - Make patches for gnome (which component? where? file?) >> >> Note: anyone is fine, not just Ben. Aiming at him since he started this mailing. >> >> Regards, >> Mark >> > Yes... old mail just getting send now?