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Subject: Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings"
From: Arx Cruz <arxcruz () gnome ! org>
Date: 2011-07-23 1:16:47
Message-ID: CALjhVmXYt=CJ6ydeay1PFySdZ4ikq1KwJ43MgnA+5bGZ5jPsYw () mail ! gmail ! com
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Hello,
Why not use Gnome System Settings and KDE System Settings instead?
So this can be visible in both environments, and the user will know what he
needs to change.
Internally I believe both can keep System Settings.
Using Gnome/KDE System Settings the user will know which one he want's to
use.
Regards,
Arx Cruz
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Sergey Udaltsov
<sergey.udaltsov@gmail.com>wrote:
> > This is what happens when you mix and match bits and pieces from
> > different operating systems. There is really not much that can be done
> > about it. Since that is what both KDE and GNOME are trying to do:
> > build complete, self-contained systems.
> So far we are running the same OS (for most of us it is Linux, but it
> can be Solaris or *BSD). DE != OS. And the system can be multiuser -
> which sometimes means both KDE and GNOME can be present in the same
> installation. Also, some, especially semi-professional apps are not
> going to be duplicated in both environments (I am not talking about
> text editors or calculators) - so there are relatively high chances
> that the user would need both sets of settings, for KDE and GNOME (in
> that sense having ShowOnlyIn can be a bad idea - some "foreign" apps
> would become not configurable).
>
> The best idea really would be to define the mechanism of feeding the
> settings into "foreign" apps. Both directions, GNOME (desktop) ->KDE
> (apps) and KDE (desktop) -> GNOME (apps). If we have that, in addition
> to ShowOnlyIn, user could never notice that the system has two
> variants of "System Settings". The only problem with that approach is
> that some settings can be defined only in one DE. In that case, sane
> default values could be the only choice..
>
> Sergey
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Hello,<div><br></div><div>Why not use Gnome System Settings and KDE System Settings \
instead?</div><div>So this can be visible in both environments, and the user will \
know what he needs to change.</div><div>Internally I believe both can keep System \
Settings.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Using Gnome/KDE System Settings the user will know which one he \
want's to use.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Arx \
Cruz</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Sergey \
Udaltsov <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:sergey.udaltsov@gmail.com">sergey.udaltsov@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">> This is what happens when you mix and \
match bits and pieces from<br> > different operating systems. There is really not \
much that can be done<br> > about it. Since that is what both KDE and GNOME are \
trying to do:<br> > build complete, self-contained systems.<br>
</div>So far we are running the same OS (for most of us it is Linux, but it<br>
can be Solaris or *BSD). DE != OS. And the system can be multiuser -<br>
which sometimes means both KDE and GNOME can be present in the same<br>
installation. Also, some, especially semi-professional apps are not<br>
going to be duplicated in both environments (I am not talking about<br>
text editors or calculators) - so there are relatively high chances<br>
that the user would need both sets of settings, for KDE and GNOME (in<br>
that sense having ShowOnlyIn can be a bad idea - some "foreign" apps<br>
would become not configurable).<br>
<br>
The best idea really would be to define the mechanism of feeding the<br>
settings into "foreign" apps. Both directions, GNOME (desktop) ->KDE<br>
(apps) and KDE (desktop) -> GNOME (apps). If we have that, in addition<br>
to ShowOnlyIn, user could never notice that the system has two<br>
variants of "System Settings". The only problem with that approach is<br>
that some settings can be defined only in one DE. In that case, sane<br>
default values could be the only choice..<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Sergey<br>
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