From kde-core-devel  Mon May 09 19:48:37 2011
From: Alexander Neundorf <neundorf () kde ! org>
Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 19:48:37 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: Qt5 -> KDE5?
Message-Id: <201105092148.38213.neundorf () kde ! org>
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On Monday 09 May 2011, marcel partap wrote:
> Hi there,
> on this occasion where future direction of KDE is being defined, here's
> just a note from a linux 'power user' who turned from full KDE (3.5)
> fanboyness to using xfce, coping with some kde apps (yakuake, konqueror,
> okular, the games)...
> 
> >>   - Do we want "KDE 5" to be a big change, or just a small increment?
> > 
> > Do we need a big change? I don't think so - we are already fantastic :)
> 
> although you put a smiley there, _this_ attitude is what i perceive as a
> huge problem regarding current KDE. The continuing 'pareto UI design
> frenzy', i.e. designing for the fictitious 80% collective of Joe-users(*)
> has been a real turn off to me. But the real problem behind that is that
> often, even elaborate users have no choice of changing stuff they'd like
> to behave differently (besides locally applying hacky patches).
> Fortunately, QML offers a great way out: separating GUI definition from the
> code providing features. This could result in what i'd dream of as great
> solution - UI style sheets, for joes, advanced users or kids. That's a
> long way off though.
> 
> Another thing, the handling of bug reports could be a bit more mature in
> some cases. Flagging users UI improvement proposals as RESOLVED/WONTFIX
> (**) or pretending loss of user data under special conditions is not a
> problem that could be dealt with (***) is not what i'd consider super
> responsible maintainership... but then again i stopped reporting bugs
> anyways out of demotivation...
> 
> Not to play the blame game here, i still have hopes KDE can be the fun
> 'kool' power experience KDE 3.5 was, but my euphoric 4.x expectations have
> largely been smashed by instability, imho poor UI decisions and a plasma
> dream that never materialized.

Seriously, you said you switched to xfce...
Which KDE 4.x version was the last one you tested ?
At least since 4.5 plasma is rock solid and fast.
I haven't found anything which I could configure with KDE 3 but can't with KDE 
>= 4.5.
Give it a try again :-)

Alex