From kde-core-devel Sat Feb 05 17:39:36 2011 From: Anders Lund Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:39:36 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts get wild. Message-Id: <201102051839.36880.anders () alweb ! dk> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=129692761412260 On Lørdag den 5. februar 2011, Mark wrote: > Hi, > > let me first point you to this image (kde 4.6.0) : > http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5398/rightmousebuttondesktop.png > > Oke, first one shortcut in that image. > I consider myself a experienced computer user in both windows and linux but > today i learned new shortcut things. > ALT + d, a (which is pressing ALT and type 'd' and 'a' while ALT is > pressed.. i didn't knew any combinations like that before) > > Now lets consider what i wanted to do. What i wanted is opening the dialog > to add widgets to my desktop.. that's it. Now that shortcut isn't working > and i reported that here : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265527 but > i wonder what the rationale is behind ALT + d, a... > > ALT, i can understand.. but D and A..? What does D mean? What does A mean? > The thing i want to do is "open the dialog to add widgets" and to describe > it simple i would say "add widgets" but i can't find any of that back in > the shortcut.. I would have expected something like this "ALT + a, w" for > "adding widgets" and "ALT + a, a" for adding activities... > > One that is obvious is the desktop settings is ALT + d, ALT + s even though > ALT + d, s is also working so i suspect there is a bug in there. However, > it's not consistent with other setting shortcuts. You can see the desktop > settings as "properties" and in dolphin they use "ALT + Return" for that. > (what i find odd is that ALT + Return opens dolphin when not opened..) > > so perhaps it's time to take a real good look at all our shortcuts and > define some generic application shortcuts that are the same in every > application that makes KDE SC. > > Just a little brainstorm. > What do you think? I find it confusing that Plasma uses two formats, some are "ALT + D, ALT + A" (Activities), some are "ALT + D, A" (add widgets). The latter does not work btw, on my system it shows the activities pane. "ALT + D, L" (lock widgets) works, but i find that spooky - if I press ALT + D, how long will it take berore reset? It's like a hidden menu :o Plasmoids that can be configured all claims "ALT + D, S", but of course it does not work for all of them - in fact it works in some cases for the latest clicked plasmoid /on the desktop/ -- those on the panel can not be reached by keyboard in my experience. Since there is no other concept of a "current" plasmoid, this is rather spooky too, I have to click an applet to know that its config dialog will popup on "ALT + D, S" - if it is a ??? (yaWP or fading calender works, but eventlist does not). All in all, it is safer to be a clicker, at least when it comes to configuring plasmoids... Hm, looks like there is room for improvement :-) -- Venlig hilsen, Anders