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Subject:    Re: Review Request: Using KWallet to store Cookies
From:       "Michael Leupold" <lemma () confuego ! org>
Date:       2010-11-16 12:14:20
Message-ID: 20101116121420.31262.47811 () vidsolbach ! de
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> On 2010-11-16 11:21:29, David Faure wrote:
> > /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookieserver.cpp, line 499
> > <http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/4927/diff/4/?file=40257#file40257line499>
> > 
> > Same here. Why use Asynchronous if you make it sync anyway?
> > 
> > I see you handle re-entrancy in this particular method, but I'm still worried \
> > about re-entrancy at a higher level. 
> > Please consider either
> > 1) reworking this to be fully async, or
> > 2) using the Sync API from KWallet, even though this will time out if the user \
> > takes too much time to enter his wallet password. 
> > To make it all async, you can solve the problem of synchronous DBus calls by \
> > using dbus transactions -- although one tends to hit the stupidly-low DBus \
> > timeout quite often this way, again if the user takes too much time to react, so \
> > this doesn't gain much. 
> > The "real" solution is probably to add an async API to kcookieserver, although \
> > even javascript requires synchronous access to cookies IIRC... so this might not \
> > work. 
> > You're hitting one of the most complex issues with Qt (and DBus) - once something \
> > low-level is async, everything on top of it needs to be async too, which can be \
> > pretty difficult. 
> > Anyway. I'd much rather see dbus calls time out (due to using the kwallet sync \
> > API), then the user can just hit reload after entering his wallet password, than \
> > seeing complex-to-debug crashes due to unexpected re-entrancy due to the use of \
> > QEventLoop.

Just a short hint regarding the synchronous use of KWallet:
While kwalletd still has synchronous D-Bus calls those aren't exposed in the public \
KWallet::Wallet API. To work around the timeouts (which in fact will be around 5-20s \
on most distributions) KWallet::Wallet itself uses the asynchronous D-Bus calls and a \
nested event-loop.

@David: I think the problem with synchronous KWallet calls timing out is that if a \
call to KWallet hits a timeout, the call to KCookieJar will have timed out already as \
it's kioslave->KCookieJar->KWallet. The only solution to this would be setting a \
lower timeout on the KCookieJar->KWallet call than there is on the \
kioslave->KCookieJar call - which seems like a really ugly hack.


- Michael


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On 2010-10-26 01:24:01, José Millán Soto wrote:
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> (Updated 2010-10-26 01:24:01)
> 
> 
> Review request for kdelibs.
> 
> 
> Summary
> -------
> 
> Currently cookies are stored in a plain text file. This patch allows KCookieJar to \
> store the cookies securely using KWallet. 
> The main problem I had writing this patch was that when a web page is requested, \
> KIO ask for the cookies to kded using dbus. In the first implementations that I \
> wrote, if the user took too long to open the wallet, KIO received a dbus timeout. 
> To prevent this, if it takes more than 10 seconds to open the wallet, the web page \
> will be requested without sending the cookies (or sending the available cookies if \
> there's still the plain text cookie file). If the wallet is opened after that, the \
> cookies stored in the wallet will be available since then. 
> Because of this, the feature is disabled by default.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> /trunk/KDE/kdebase/apps/konqueror/settings/kio/kcookiespolicies.cpp 1189829 
> /trunk/KDE/kdebase/apps/konqueror/settings/kio/kcookiespoliciesdlg.ui 1189829 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookiejar.h 1189787 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookiejar.cpp 1189787 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookieserver.h 1189787 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookieserver.cpp 1189787 
> 
> Diff: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/4927/diff
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> José
> 
> 


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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On November 16th, 2010, 11:21 a.m., <b>David \
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"></pre></td>  <td colspan="2"><pre style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: \
0; ">KWallet::Wallet* KCookieServer::wallet()</pre></td>

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    <th bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2"></font></th>  <td bgcolor="#c5ffc4" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; "></pre></td>  <th \
bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid \
#C0C0C0;" align="right"><font size="2">491</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#c5ffc4" \
width="50%"><pre style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">        <span \
class="n">wallet</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="n">KWallet</span><span \
class="o">::</span><span class="n">Wallet</span><span class="o">::</span><span \
class="n">openWallet</span><span class="p">(</span><span \
class="n">KWallet</span><span class="o">::</span><span class="n">Wallet</span><span \
class="o">::</span><span class="n">NetworkWallet</span><span class="p">(),</span> \
<span class="mi">0</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">KWallet</span><span \
class="o">::</span><span class="n">Wallet</span><span class="o">::</span><span \
class="n">Asynchronous</span><span class="p">);</span></pre></td>  </tr>

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  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Same here. Why use \
Asynchronous if you make it sync anyway?

I see you handle re-entrancy in this particular method, but I&#39;m still worried \
about re-entrancy at a higher level.

Please consider either
1) reworking this to be fully async, or
2) using the Sync API from KWallet, even though this will time out if the user takes \
too much time to enter his wallet password.

To make it all async, you can solve the problem of synchronous DBus calls by using \
dbus transactions -- although one tends to hit the stupidly-low DBus timeout quite \
often this way, again if the user takes too much time to react, so this doesn&#39;t \
gain much.

The &quot;real&quot; solution is probably to add an async API to kcookieserver, \
although even javascript requires synchronous access to cookies IIRC... so this might \
not work.

You&#39;re hitting one of the most complex issues with Qt (and DBus) - once something \
low-level is async, everything on top of it needs to be async too, which can be \
pretty difficult.

Anyway. I&#39;d much rather see dbus calls time out (due to using the kwallet sync \
API), then the user can just hit reload after entering his wallet password, than \
seeing complex-to-debug crashes due to unexpected re-entrancy due to the use of \
QEventLoop.</pre>  </blockquote>





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<pre style="margin-left: 1em; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Just a \
short hint regarding the synchronous use of KWallet: While kwalletd still has \
synchronous D-Bus calls those aren&#39;t exposed in the public KWallet::Wallet API. \
To work around the timeouts (which in fact will be around 5-20s on most \
distributions) KWallet::Wallet itself uses the asynchronous D-Bus calls and a nested \
event-loop.

@David: I think the problem with synchronous KWallet calls timing out is that if a \
call to KWallet hits a timeout, the call to KCookieJar will have timed out already as \
it&#39;s kioslave-&gt;KCookieJar-&gt;KWallet. The only solution to this would be \
setting a lower timeout on the KCookieJar-&gt;KWallet call than there is on the \
kioslave-&gt;KCookieJar call - which seems like a really ugly hack.</pre> <br />




<p>- Michael</p>


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<p>On October 26th, 2010, 1:24 a.m., José Millán Soto wrote:</p>






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<div>Review request for kdelibs.</div>
<div>By José Millán Soto.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated 2010-10-26 01:24:01</i></p>




<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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break-word;">Currently cookies are stored in a plain text file. This patch allows \
KCookieJar to store the cookies securely using KWallet.

The main problem I had writing this patch was that when a web page is requested, KIO \
ask for the cookies to kded using dbus. In the first implementations that I wrote, if \
the user took too long to open the wallet, KIO received a dbus timeout.

To prevent this, if it takes more than 10 seconds to open the wallet, the web page \
will be requested without sending the cookies (or sending the available cookies if \
there&#39;s still the plain text cookie file). If the wallet is opened after that, \
the cookies stored in the wallet will be available since then.

Because of this, the feature is disabled by default.</pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdebase/apps/konqueror/settings/kio/kcookiespolicies.cpp <span \
style="color: grey">(1189829)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdebase/apps/konqueror/settings/kio/kcookiespoliciesdlg.ui <span \
style="color: grey">(1189829)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookiejar.h <span style="color: \
grey">(1189787)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookiejar.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(1189787)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookieserver.h <span style="color: \
grey">(1189787)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/http/kcookiejar/kcookieserver.cpp <span \
style="color: grey">(1189787)</span></li>

</ul>

<p><a href="http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/4927/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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