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Subject:    Re: Review Request: Add new KDate class to simplify date localization
From:       "John Layt" <johnlayt () googlemail ! com>
Date:       2010-10-26 22:37:32
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> On 2010-10-26 13:35:22, David Jarvie wrote:
> > Looks a good piece of work. I have only had time so far to look at the header \
> > file. 
> > The main issue is that it needs a class level comment to explain what the class \
> > is for. One extra item which the class comment could have would be an explanation \
> > of how QDate relates to a KDate using the Gregorian calendar and western locales. \
> >  I'm also concerned about the handling of weeks - is the ISO week the only week \
> > which exists, or do some calendar systems have alternatives? If so, some \
> > revamping might be needed.

Thanks David.  The apidox was largely a copy-and-paste from the old KCalendarSystem \
apidox which is not great in places.  I'm in the process of re-writing it all to a \
higher standard, I'm just posting some interim replies as it's taking a while :-)

Good point on the week numbers, I do plan to implement support for other week \
numbering systems (US for example), so I might as well get the api for it right now.  \
I think people should be able to cope with the difference from QDate / \
KCalendarSystem functionality.

That's actually got me to thinking, while I've tried to be consistent with the \
QDate/KCalendarSystem api, perhaps it would be better to fix a couple of other bad \
bits of api I inherited?


> On 2010-10-26 13:35:22, David Jarvie wrote:
> > /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/date/kdate.h, line 307
> > <http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/5692/diff/1/?file=40246#file40246line307>
> > 
> > I wonder about the method name. Possibly addYearsTo() instead? Similarly for \
> > addMonthsOn() and addDaysOn().

Done.


- John


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On 2010-10-25 20:54:08, John Layt wrote:
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> (Updated 2010-10-25 20:54:08)
> 
> 
> Review request for kdelibs.
> 
> 
> Summary
> -------
> 
> The KCalendarSystem api for localizing dates is awkward, inconvenient, unintuitive, \
> and long-winded, causing many mistakes to be made or localization to be ignored \
> altogether.  This change adds a new KDate class designed to make localizing dates \
> as easy as using QDate. 
> Some QDate code may look like:
> 
> QDate myDate( aYear, aMonth, aDay );
> int doy = myDate.dayOfYear();
> 
> The KDE localized date code looks something like:
> 
> QDate myDate;
> KGlobal::locale()->calendar()->setDate( myDate, aYear, aMonth, aDay );
> int doy = KGlobal::locale()->calendar()->dayOfYear( myDate );
> 
> The localized KDate code would look like:
> 
> KDate myDate( aYear, aMonth, aDay );
> int doy = myDate.dayOfYear();
> 
> Much easier.
> 
> KDate is a thin wrapper around KCalendarSystem and QDate, with a near identical api \
> to QDate and as such can be used as a drop-in replacement with very few changes.  \
> Some deprecated or unnecessary KCalendarSystem methods have not been included, but \
> these can still be accessed via the calendar() methods.  Some new convenience \
> methods have also been added such as setCurrentDate() and addYearsOn(). 
> Some methods have QDate overloads for convenience, and the assignment and \
> comparison operators partially work with QDate on the rhs.  If anyone knows how to \
> make it work with QDate on the lhs, or any other QDate compatibility ideas, I'm all \
> ears. 
> For now I only intend this to be used as a convenience class by apps internally and \
> not to be used in kdelibs api as I don't see much advantage in that, but I may do \
> so if the demand for convenience is there. 
> I have named it KDate, but there is the possibility people may get confused and \
> think that KDateTime also localizes datetime's, but that is not the case.  If \
> people think this will be a problem KLocalizedDate is an alternative if more \
> awkward name. 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/CMakeLists.txt 1189756 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/date/kdate.h PRE-CREATION 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/date/kdate.cpp PRE-CREATION 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/tests/kcalendartest.h 1189756 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/tests/kcalendartest.cpp 1189756 
> 
> Diff: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/5692/diff
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Full unit tests included.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> 


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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On October 26th, 2010, 1:35 p.m., <b>David \
Jarvie</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">Looks a good piece of work. I have only had time so far to look at the \
header file.

The main issue is that it needs a class level comment to explain what the class is \
for. One extra item which the class comment could have would be an explanation of how \
QDate relates to a KDate using the Gregorian calendar and western locales.

I&#39;m also concerned about the handling of weeks - is the ISO week the only week \
which exists, or do some calendar systems have alternatives? If so, some revamping \
might be needed.</pre>  </blockquote>







</blockquote>

<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Thanks David.  The \
apidox was largely a copy-and-paste from the old KCalendarSystem apidox which is not \
great in places.  I&#39;m in the process of re-writing it all to a higher standard, \
I&#39;m just posting some interim replies as it&#39;s taking a while :-)

Good point on the week numbers, I do plan to implement support for other week \
numbering systems (US for example), so I might as well get the api for it right now.  \
I think people should be able to cope with the difference from QDate / \
KCalendarSystem functionality.

That&#39;s actually got me to thinking, while I&#39;ve tried to be consistent with \
the QDate/KCalendarSystem api, perhaps it would be better to fix a couple of other \
bad bits of api I inherited?</pre> <br />





<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On October 26th, 2010, 1:35 p.m., <b>David \
Jarvie</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
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class="n">bool</span> <span class="n">addYearsOn</span><span class="p">(</span><span \
class="kt">int</span> <span class="n">years</span><span \
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  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I wonder about the \
method name. Possibly addYearsTo() instead? Similarly for addMonthsOn() and \
addDaysOn().</pre>  </blockquote>





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<pre style="margin-left: 1em; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Done.</pre> \
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<p>- John</p>


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<div>Review request for kdelibs.</div>
<div>By John Layt.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated 2010-10-25 20:54:08</i></p>




<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">The KCalendarSystem api for localizing dates is awkward, inconvenient, \
unintuitive, and long-winded, causing many mistakes to be made or localization to be \
ignored altogether.  This change adds a new KDate class designed to make localizing \
dates as easy as using QDate.

Some QDate code may look like:

    QDate myDate( aYear, aMonth, aDay );
    int doy = myDate.dayOfYear();

The KDE localized date code looks something like:

    QDate myDate;
    KGlobal::locale()-&gt;calendar()-&gt;setDate( myDate, aYear, aMonth, aDay );
    int doy = KGlobal::locale()-&gt;calendar()-&gt;dayOfYear( myDate );

The localized KDate code would look like:

    KDate myDate( aYear, aMonth, aDay );
    int doy = myDate.dayOfYear();

Much easier.

KDate is a thin wrapper around KCalendarSystem and QDate, with a near identical api \
to QDate and as such can be used as a drop-in replacement with very few changes.  \
Some deprecated or unnecessary KCalendarSystem methods have not been included, but \
these can still be accessed via the calendar() methods.  Some new convenience methods \
have also been added such as setCurrentDate() and addYearsOn().

Some methods have QDate overloads for convenience, and the assignment and comparison \
operators partially work with QDate on the rhs.  If anyone knows how to make it work \
with QDate on the lhs, or any other QDate compatibility ideas, I&#39;m all ears.

For now I only intend this to be used as a convenience class by apps internally and \
not to be used in kdelibs api as I don&#39;t see much advantage in that, but I may do \
so if the demand for convenience is there.

I have named it KDate, but there is the possibility people may get confused and think \
that KDateTime also localizes datetime&#39;s, but that is not the case.  If people \
think this will be a problem KLocalizedDate is an alternative if more awkward \
name.</pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(1189756)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/date/kdate.h <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/date/kdate.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/tests/kcalendartest.h <span style="color: \
grey">(1189756)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/tests/kcalendartest.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(1189756)</span></li>

</ul>

<p><a href="http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/5692/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>




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