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Subject:    Re: Review Request: KLocale try default to a Country if the user
From:       "John Layt" <johnlayt () googlemail ! com>
Date:       2010-08-11 23:10:07
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> On 2010-08-11 20:48:32, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > The doInit parameter looks a bit ugly, can you just create a "Unix" leaf class \
> > and then make all leaf classes call init and the base class never call init?

You're right, far easier and way more elegant.  Amazing how you sometimes can't see \
the obvious when it's right in front of you :-)


- John


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On 2010-08-06 09:03:23, John Layt wrote:
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> (Updated 2010-08-06 09:03:23)
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> Review request for kde-windows and kdelibs.
> 
> 
> Summary
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> 
> Currently, if the user has not set a Country in System Settings, then KDE assumes C \
> and uses the default settings for things like date formats.  This is not very \
> friendly, especially under Mac/Win where the user may not realise where/how to fix \
> this.  This change tries to detect what the host system locale Country is and use \
> that to load the KDE format settings. 
> For Mac/Win, this is an interim step by faking the correct settings, later changes \
> will directly read the Mac/Win settings and translate them into KDE formats. 
> What's changed:
> 1) Try to fix my stupidity in not knowing how virtuals work in constructors by \
> flagging at which level the init needs to be called to ensure the correct host \
> system virtuals are called.  If there's a better way to do this please let me know \
> (no, merging everything back into one class and doing lots of ifdefs will just be \
> too messy once every function has 3 or more different paths depending on host \
> system). 2) During init work through a hierarchy of potential country codes, \
> falling back to C if all else fails. 3) Under Mac take a snapshot copy of the Mac \
> Locale object as at KLocale construction, provide a utility function to return a \
> required Mac locale setting as a QString, and use the utility to return the Mac \
> country setting. 4) Under Windows record the Windows Locale ID as at KLocale \
> construction (but not the actual settings?), provide a utility function to return a \
> required Windows locale setting as a QString, and use the utility to return the \
> Windows country setting. 5) Under KDE, call the QLocale::system().name() method and \
> parse the country from there.  This method supposedly applies some intelligent \
> heuristics if the locale does not explicitly include a country, e.g. locale with \
> only a language of "de" would imply a country of "DE".  Note this method is \
> affected by environmental variables. 6) Add validation checking to ensure country \
> is only ever set to a value we support. 
> Questions:
> 1) Should the Mac and Windows country methods pay any attention to environmental \
> variables?  Or do the system calls do that already? 2) Does KDE Windows handle the \
> global locale differently to Linux?  AFAIK under Linux each time an app runs a new \
> instance of KGlobal and KLocale gets created just for that app run, so I can change \
> the country and the next time the app starts it picks up the new country setting.  \
> Under Windows my kDebug statements appear to show that only the first run of any \
> app causes a new KLocale to be initialised, I actually need to kill klauncher and \
> kded4 before I can force any app to pick up a new country? 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale.h 1159613 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp 1159613 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_kde.cpp 1159613 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_mac.cpp 1159613 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_mac_p.h 1159613 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_p.h 1159613 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_win.cpp 1159613 
> /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_win_p.h 1159613 
> 
> Diff: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4915/diff
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Tested under openSuse with LANG = en_GB and various values in kdeglobals and it \
> works.  Tested under Windows with different locales set in the Control Panel and \
> kdeglobals and it always returned a country (but see question 2 above).  Not yet \
> compiled or tested under Mac, still trying to build a dev environment there, but \
> will be tested before committing. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> 


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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On August 11th, 2010, 8:48 p.m., <b>Albert Astals \
Cid</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">The doInit parameter looks a bit ugly, can you just create a \
&quot;Unix&quot; leaf class and then make all leaf classes call init and the base \
class never call init?</pre>  </blockquote>







</blockquote>

<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">You&#39;re right, far \
easier and way more elegant.  Amazing how you sometimes can&#39;t see the obvious \
when it&#39;s right in front of you :-)</pre> <br />








<p>- John</p>


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<p>On August 6th, 2010, 9:03 a.m., John Layt wrote:</p>






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<div>Review request for kde-windows and kdelibs.</div>
<div>By John Layt.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated 2010-08-06 09:03:23</i></p>




<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">Currently, if the user has not set a Country in System Settings, then \
KDE assumes C and uses the default settings for things like date formats.  This is \
not very friendly, especially under Mac/Win where the user may not realise where/how \
to fix this.  This change tries to detect what the host system locale Country is and \
use that to load the KDE format settings.

For Mac/Win, this is an interim step by faking the correct settings, later changes \
will directly read the Mac/Win settings and translate them into KDE formats.

What&#39;s changed:
1) Try to fix my stupidity in not knowing how virtuals work in constructors by \
flagging at which level the init needs to be called to ensure the correct host system \
virtuals are called.  If there&#39;s a better way to do this please let me know (no, \
merging everything back into one class and doing lots of ifdefs will just be too \
messy once every function has 3 or more different paths depending on host system). 2) \
During init work through a hierarchy of potential country codes, falling back to C if \
all else fails. 3) Under Mac take a snapshot copy of the Mac Locale object as at \
KLocale construction, provide a utility function to return a required Mac locale \
setting as a QString, and use the utility to return the Mac country setting. 4) Under \
Windows record the Windows Locale ID as at KLocale construction (but not the actual \
settings?), provide a utility function to return a required Windows locale setting as \
a QString, and use the utility to return the Windows country setting. 5) Under KDE, \
call the QLocale::system().name() method and parse the country from there.  This \
method supposedly applies some intelligent heuristics if the locale does not \
explicitly include a country, e.g. locale with only a language of &quot;de&quot; \
would imply a country of &quot;DE&quot;.  Note this method is affected by \
environmental variables. 6) Add validation checking to ensure country is only ever \
set to a value we support.

Questions:
1) Should the Mac and Windows country methods pay any attention to environmental \
variables?  Or do the system calls do that already? 2) Does KDE Windows handle the \
global locale differently to Linux?  AFAIK under Linux each time an app runs a new \
instance of KGlobal and KLocale gets created just for that app run, so I can change \
the country and the next time the app starts it picks up the new country setting.  \
Under Windows my kDebug statements appear to show that only the first run of any app \
causes a new KLocale to be initialised, I actually need to kill klauncher and kded4 \
before I can force any app to pick up a new country? </pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">Tested under openSuse with LANG = en_GB and various values in kdeglobals \
and it works.  Tested under Windows with different locales set in the Control Panel \
and kdeglobals and it always returned a country (but see question 2 above).  Not yet \
compiled or tested under Mac, still trying to build a dev environment there, but will \
be tested before committing.</pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale.h <span style="color: \
grey">(1159613)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(1159613)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_kde.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(1159613)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_mac.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(1159613)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_mac_p.h <span style="color: \
grey">(1159613)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_p.h <span style="color: \
grey">(1159613)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_win.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(1159613)</span></li>

 <li>/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale_win_p.h <span style="color: \
grey">(1159613)</span></li>

</ul>

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