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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE/kdelibs/kdeui/kernel
From:       John Layt <johnlayt () googlemail ! com>
Date:       2010-08-11 19:41:23
Message-ID: 201008112041.24084.johnlayt () googlemail ! com
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On Tuesday 10 August 2010 23:11:16 John Layt wrote:
> On Monday 09 August 2010 22:32:15 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> > On 09.08.10 22:16:22, John Layt wrote:
> > > I'm currently missing Alt-tab using openSuse 11.3 packages for SC 4.5
> > > so I'm guessing they backported it?
> > 
> > You can find out by keeping both Alt+Tab pressed down, after a few
> > seconds the tabbox will come up (or your desktop-effect will start) if
> > they indeed backported the kapplication change.
> 
> Yep,holding down Alt-Tab the desktop effect Cover Flow kicks in, switches
> through a few windows, then Kwin crashes, restarts, and Xorg goes to 50%
> and I have to log out to get a responsive desktop back :-(  Damn Nvidia...

Ah, apologies to the lizard wranglers, I got caught out by the repo switch for 
4.5 and so was running trunk instead.  Reverted to 4.5 and all is good again.  
I can't reproduce the Kwin crash anymore, but compositing will switch itself 
off instead due to lack or resources.  And I can't use blur or translucency, 
so Nvidia still sucks :-)

> > > I'm also finding that pressing enter in krunner
> > > often doesn't work which might be related, but could just be krunner
> > > being flaky.
> > 
> > I've also noticed that, but I think I also had that from time to time
> > before the kdelibs, especially if I type a full executable and quickly
> > hit enter. It seems that krunner first waits for all runners to return
> > before it even tries to execute the first one.
> 
> Nope, I wait for the first option to appear and press enter and it often
> doesn't work, I have to click to get a response.

This still happens, so it looks to be a different bug.  It appears to be if I 
type in a partial app name and it exactly matches a previous partial app name 
I entered (i.e. the ghost text that appears as I type), then it takes 2 enter 
presses, but if it's a new partial or is a complete match for the app name 
then only one enter is required.

For example, when typing in dolphin, after typing 'do' I get a ghost for 
'dolp'.  If I complete typing 'dolp' or use the right arrow to complete it, 
then I have to press enter twice.  If I only enter 'dol' or enter 'dolphin' 
then only 1 enter is required.

bko time :-)

John.

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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Ah, apologies to the lizard \
wranglers, I got caught out by the repo switch for 4.5 and so was running trunk \
instead.  Reverted to 4.5 and all is good again.  I can't reproduce the Kwin crash \
anymore, but compositing will switch itself off instead due to lack or resources.  \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; I'm also \
finding that pressing enter in krunner</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
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executable and quickly</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
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and press enter and it often</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
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style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">This still happens, so it \
looks to be a different bug.  It appears to be if I type in a partial app name and it \
exactly matches a previous partial app name I entered (i.e. the ghost text that \
appears as I type), then it takes 2 enter presses, but if it's a new partial or is a \
complete match for the app name then only one enter is required.</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">For example, when typing in \
dolphin, after typing 'do' I get a ghost for 'dolp'.  If I complete typing 'dolp' or \
use the right arrow to complete it, then I have to press enter twice.  If I only \
enter 'dol' or enter 'dolphin' then only 1 enter is required.</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">bko time :-)</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">John.</p></body></html>



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