From kde-core-devel Wed Sep 23 04:08:34 2009 From: Chani Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:08:34 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Turn Powerdevil suspend notification into a dialog Message-Id: <200909222108.40429.chanika () gmail ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=125367898700874 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--nextPart1952846.FV5DgXKI7c" --nextPart1952846.FV5DgXKI7c Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On September 22, 2009 18:22:06 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On September 22, 2009, David Nolden wrote: > > For sure, the user feels less confused when he's disturbed by a dialog, > > then when he's disturbed by the shutdown of his computer. >=20 > again, where's the evidence that this is even happening? >=20 > what i've been hearing from users and seeing while observing usage: >=20 > * the power notifications happen too often already ("Critical" power level > is a bit too arbitrary on many systems right now) my favourite: getting a notification to tell me that *I* changed the power= =20 profile. :P spam like that makes it easier to miss the critical notificatio= ns. >=20 > * that the powering down notification doesn't last long enough (easy to > solve) yep >=20 > * the the buttons are too small to hit in a short period of time (also ea= sy > to solve) yep >=20 > where is the "my computer turns off and i didn't know it because the > notification didn't let me know this"? I think people are smart enough to figure out (and be grateful) that their= =20 laptop shut itself down because it was about to run out of power. it's more= =20 about the annoyance of occasionally wanting to tell it not to do that and n= ot=20 being able to do so before it's too late. which an improved notification co= uld=20 solve. > > But the result would be something similar to a modal dialog > > anyway, as it _must_ disturb the users workflow. >=20 > you don't need a modal anything to get user attention. and no, you do NOT > need to FORCE a disturbance upon the user. i want to know when i need to > take action, but i don't want to have what i'm doing interrupted forceab= ly > for that information to be passed on. the only things that piss me off a= re > things i can't control, such as disk checks on start up (as one example). > i am not unique in this way. psst. reiserfs. disk checks are quick and relatively painless :) I didn't h= ave=20 an ext3 partition until I got this laptop, and I was amazed people put up w= ith=20 its slow fsck time... also, another reason modal is evil: I'm typing. chances are I'll hit spaceb= ar=20 before I notice that the focus is elsewhere. I <3 kde's focus-stealing=20 prevention :) >=20 > > Maybe a very prominent > > colored, flashing and non-disappearing popup somewhere near the panel > > would work as well. >=20 > well, colored and flashing is probably unnecessary. non-disappearing is > easy; large is easy, too. yay easy. so, someone should go do it. :) I wouldn't mind some red on a critical thing like this... flashing is evil,= =20 though. =2D-=20 This message brought to you by eevil bananas and the number 3. www.chani3.com --nextPart1952846.FV5DgXKI7c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkq5n0IACgkQeGbAwpIS3GyXsACg2Yl/3ikSDkl/vDvQ3EJ8POzy OecAn2vMZeqxo/AK5uCPLhMm+0lwrkoB =0R0E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1952846.FV5DgXKI7c--