--nextPart2143132.2LoJR6qdx8 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On September 22, 2009, David Nolden wrote: > For sure, the user feels less confused when he's disturbed by a dialog, > then when he's disturbed by the shutdown of his computer. again, where's the evidence that this is even happening? what i've been hearing from users and seeing while observing usage: * the power notifications happen too often already ("Critical" power level = is=20 a bit too arbitrary on many systems right now) * that the powering down notification doesn't last long enough (easy to sol= ve) * the the buttons are too small to hit in a short period of time (also easy= to=20 solve) where is the "my computer turns off and i didn't know it because the=20 notification didn't let me know this"? > > That needs to be fixed, regardless. Introducing another way of notifying > > the user of important system events is not a solution but creates > > inconsistency and makes this problem even worse. > > > > I'm not saying that this piece of user interaction (critical suspend) > > can't be improved. Replacing it with a dialog is just the wrong > > direction. >=20 > I agree that it would probably be better if this was handled somehow > consistently.=20 so lets do that. > But the result would be something similar to a modal dialog > anyway, as it _must_ disturb the users workflow.=20 you don't need a modal anything to get user attention. and no, you do NOT n= eed=20 to FORCE a disturbance upon the user. i want to know when i need to take=20 action, but i don't want to have what i'm doing interrupted forceably for t= hat=20 information to be passed on. the only things that piss me off are things i= =20 can't control, such as disk checks on start up (as one example). i am not=20 unique in this way. > Maybe a very prominent > colored, flashing and non-disappearing popup somewhere near the panel wou= ld > work as well. well, colored and flashing is probably unnecessary. non-disappearing is eas= y;=20 large is easy, too. > But dialogs have their advantages too: Everyone notices them, > and everyone knows how to use them. that's a fallacy. people who know how to use a computer know what a dialog= =20 looks like because they've seen them before. but there is nothing that says= =20 that they will use THIS dialog in the way we are hoping to. see my other email why i think this would be very likely to backfire badly. =2D-=20 Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks --nextPart2143132.2LoJR6qdx8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkq5eEIACgkQ1rcusafx20O/MgCgsNSmW6LagHbBnV36coOYlM4f COMAoJtIsIAyafECNaSd3YFL50TQbwDn =PwF6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2143132.2LoJR6qdx8--