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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Kill KIO (was: Repositioning the KDE brand)
From:       Thiago Macieira <thiago () kde ! org>
Date:       2009-07-14 21:29:05
Message-ID: 200907142329.13631.thiago () kde ! org
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Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>Now, personally, I don't want to lose all the nice KDE things, when
> working on and in my chosen platform. Compared to KDE, I feel clumsy
> everywhere else. But they are KDE advantages, so I'd like to abstract
> them away, and have Krita use those facilities only when running on
> KDE.

I believe the problem here is a historical one. Since KDE has always been 
the platform and the KDE libraries only had one platform to integrate 
with, we have never had the need for separation.

That need is now arising.

We would need an architecture more or less like this:
 - the underlying platform
 - what should be in the platform but isn't there, like global 
accelerators, configuring of date and time formats, VFS, etc.
 - a cross-platform toolkit abstracting the platform
 - a set of libraries providing cross-platform functionality that no 
platform has, but we feel our apps should have.

The current architecure is nowhere like that. The underlying platform is 
too low, the cross-platform toolkit isn't complete for all tasks. And we 
complemented the platform by writing the necessary tools using not only 
the toolkit, but the our own libraries as well.

That's a dependency reversal. How can Qt integrate with a platform that 
builds on top of Qt? That's an answer I've been trying to answer for the 
past two years in my day job :-)

I don't know how to solve this without stopping all KDE 4 work and 
spending 2 years into making KDE 5.

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