From kde-core-devel Tue Jun 30 00:28:44 2009 From: Alejandro Exojo Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:28:44 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: Repositioning the KDE brand Message-Id: <200906300228.44523.suy () kurly ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=124632181923420 Hi. Sorry for jumping here a little late or if I'm adding noise, but I can't resist saying this because it's been in my head for months. El Martes, 23 de Junio de 2009, Cornelius Schumacher escribió: > The misconception that KDE software only runs on a KDE desktop stands as a > symbol for the reasons why we need to adapt our messaging to this changed > meaning of "KDE". The marketing and promo groups have completed a proposal > how to achieve that. One key element of this proposal is to retire the term > "K Desktop Environment", and just use "KDE". See the attached document for > details. I could not agree more with the initiative and with the suggestions made. I just want to add some small comments. In January, there was this thread in the users mailinglist: http://lists.kde.org/?t=115254767800001&r=1&w=2 A summary of the thread is something that probably all of you have seen once in a while: somebody asking which is "the KDE application" for some purpose, and then some confusion about if one application is more "official" than other because it's in a module (e.g. kdemultimedia), while other is in extragear, and the third in another repository outside of kde.org. There were two messages which I think that clarified and summarized well the situation, and which say something similar to the proposal: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde&m=123143661109959&w=2 http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde&m=123128532419211&w=2 I took note of this thread because I thought that it was something kind of important (and I wanted to send a mail to discuss it back then, but I thought that nobody will care at all). I see confusions like this almost once a month if I count all lists/webs that I read, and I thought that it was worth to create a nomenclature that could help in making all members of the community to communicate with less misunderstandings. My idea back then was to use the following: * KDE Powered/Based. Apps that use kdelibs, etc. (e.g. kdenlive or kaffeine will fit here, but also apps in extragear or in the modules released together like kdemultimedia or kdegraphics). * KDE Hosted. Software that is hosted at kde.org (applications or other software, but of course users will care just about the first). This could apply to software not exclusively related to KDE, like taglib. * KDE Suite/Distribution/Set/Bundle/Package... A group of software released at the same time. I like more "suite" because it avoids the confusion with Linux distributions, and sounds familiar to those used with terms like "office suite" or "mozilla suite", etc. The rest is more or less how is expressed in the proposal. And one last bit: not only the KDE-related naming is complex for users. If you look at TechBase right now [*], there is a link which says "developing with KDE". Without following the link and reading the page, who would be sure if the linked page is about using KDE software for development, or developing that software itself, or creating a KDE application? So yes, a brand name for Qt+kdelibs+others will be helpful. Greetings. [*] Techbase frontpage at the time of writing this: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Welcome_to_KDE_TechBase&oldid=13658 -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) | GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://barnacity.net/ | http://disperso.net