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On Friday 24 April 2009, Aur=C3=A9lien G=C3=A2teau wrote:
> Unfortunately, more and more people are using laptops with touchpad
> wheels. Are we going to say users: "go buy a *real* mouse!"

no, i'm going to look at the x developers and system integrators and say, "=
can=20
you please write and configure touchpad devices to work as well as they do =
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Microsoft Windows?" i won't even ask for Mac-level competency.

it's shocking how much better the touchpad works in Vista versus OpenSuse o=
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my son's laptop. SHOCKING.

as someone who is now working for a distro, perhaps you could help raise=20
awareness of these issues as opposed to trying to get upstream to neuter th=
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user interface. :)

> > please don't get me wrong,
> > i /do/ see that touchpad wheels introduce problems (trust me, i
> > do...sadly) but imho the solution (to this very problem) was to write an
> > (X wide) MW filter that passes wheelevents only to a customizable
> > whitelist of apps. not to say: "hey my touchpad is crap, can we please
> > not use anything but single leftclicks?"
>
> One usually do not trigger mouse clicks accidentally because it's a
> point-and-click operation. Wheel-scroll is not: you just roll the wheel,
> thinking the mouse is still over the document you are reading. That's
> the whole point of mouse wheel: scrolling without pointing the cursor at
> the scrollbar.

that isn't how wheeling has worked now or ever in x11. again, please direct=
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your energy to the right place.

> When the mouse cursor slips out of the window, auntie Nora is helpless

ugh, let's cut the "auntie Nora" crap. it's based an an ageist, sexist and=
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highly irrelevant stereotype. let's talk about HCI as a real topic.

> if the browser suddenly switches between tabs, or if the wm switches to
> another window/desktop. This is because mouse-wheel is expected to be a
> very easy-to-undo operation: if you roll a bit too low, just roll it a
> bit up to get where you want. Magical pagers and taskbars break this.

"magical" pagers and taskbars behave identically; roll up a bit and you're=
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back to where you were.

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Aaron J. Seigo
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