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On Thursday 23 April 2009, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 18:03 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > this is probably the typical implementation we'll see in general, becau=
se
> > it's consistent with legacy tray behaviors. but it could just as easily
> > be a voice driven system, a text interface or fluffy dancing bunnies
> > pantomiming the items. ;) this is why we put no definition beyond "here
> > are the triggers".
>
> While I understand what you're saying, I'm a little worried that unless
> there's a different implementation people are going to quickly associate
> them with left, right and middle click.  App developers are a pain that
> way :)

that's fine, as long as they think of left click as "activate", right click=
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"context menu" and middle click as "that other thing that might happen, aka=
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the secondary activate" it's all good. they can program to their own=20
prejudices and then if/when a different host comes along it can change=20
how/when it triggers the three different actions ...=20

> This doesn't allow for applications that handle the buttons a little
> differently.  For instance the network manager notification icon shows
> menus for both left and right click.  And doesn't really have an
> "activate" type feature.  Bluetooth and GNOME Power Manager are the same
> on my system right now.

kmix is the same way and shows its popup on Activate. i think KDE and GNOME=
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abuse, er, use the system tray in remarkably similar ways.

the idea is to identify what is the:

* primary interface for the item (whatever that means: an app window, a pop=
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menu)

* contextual options interface

* secondary, if any, action to be taken

yes, it's a bit of a change in thinking, but not that much and tbh really=20
overdue.

> > if you'd like to work on such an addition to the spec, i'd happily acce=
pt
> > it as a valued addition. if you are interested, some thoughts/notes off
> > the top of my head:
>
> I'll look at the references and see if I can't brainstorm something.

cool :)

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Aaron J. Seigo
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