It's an incredible long debate ;-)

Why not having General Settings / Advanced Settings tabs, like to
previous patch, but having a trailing Settings word, to improve
visibility of those tabs ? About font size and icons, I have no
personal opinion, while those tabs are visible and easily clickable.
(and yes, why not having the frame border again, by using KTabWidget)

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:18 PM, David Jarvie <djarvie@kde.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 27 March 2008 1:25, Nicolas Ternisien wrote:
>  > Your mail was really interested Torsten, and I would like to specify the
>  > reason why I submit the first patch for System Settings : This is only
>  > because, in any other places in KDE, tabs which display many important
>  > information (not 2 or 3 useless options) are never as small as the System
>  > Settings tabs were.
>  >
>  > And I'm not only talking about the Advanced tab, but also about the
>  > General
>  > tab, which was not really easy to see too.
>  >
>  > Here is a new proposal, which follow the mockup of Michael, that I like
>  > too.
>  > I've also _artificially_ increase the button size by adding the Settings
>  > word for each text, which makes them more important. The other advantage
>  > of
>  > this displaying is that even if the user is in a KCM module, it can still
>  > see where he is, and directly switch between modules.
>  >
>  > The font size and icons are not anymore problematic because font size is
>  > standard, and all toolbar actions use icons.
>  >
>  > http://stuff.forum-software.org/kde/systemsettings-after3.png
>  > http://stuff.forum-software.org/kde/systemsettings-after4.png
>
>  I'm quite sceptical about using buttons to select option groups. If the
>  buttons are contained in a toolbar along with other buttons, it won't
>  necessarily be obvious at first sight firstly that there is a way to
>  select a different group of options, and secondly that the General and
>  Advanced buttons are mutually exclusive and are the only buttons available
>  to select different groups of options. Tabs are the standard user
>  interface device for such things, and retaining tabs will make it much
>  clearer to the user how to use the display and what the possibilities are.
>
>
>
>  --
>  David Jarvie.
>  KAlarm author & maintainer.
>  http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm
>
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