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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: [Patch] System Settings : Improve General/Advanced tabs visibility
From:       "Peter Penz" <peter.penz () gmx ! at>
Date:       2008-03-20 15:27:02
Message-ID: 20080320152702.138180 () gmx ! net
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> Hi,
> 
> The patch has been commited, without adding icon in the tab bar.
> 
> http://stuff.forum-software.org/kde/system-settings-before.png
> http://stuff.forum-software.org/kde/system-settings-after.png
> 
> We would like to have the artists and usability opinion about adding
> or not the icons (in the after.png screenshot) in the tab bar, of
> course, different from the currently selected in the screenshot.

One additional question for the Oxygen team: As far as I've seen it has not been \
discussed yet whether removing the tab-content-frame in "after" is an improvement to \
the "before" state.

With the current implementation of the Oxygen style removing the tab-content-frame \
leads to an optical issue regarding the sunken/raised borders:

- The tab content (= white area) is sunken one level below the window level.

- The active tab (= "General") is raised one level above the window level. But on the \
right side of the tabs the separator just flows into the window level content, which \
is not possible. Also the the bottom-left border of the active tab contains a small \
hole that indicates that the tab is on the same level as the window.

If an Oxygen artist would send me a screenshot how a frame-less tab should look like, \
I would fix this in the Oxygen style (for sure I'd ask Casper Boemann before \
committing anything).

Anyhow I just wanted to add this point here, as the optical issue bothers me since \
quite a long time in the Konsole window already ;-)

Peter

> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Nicolas Ternisien
> <nicolas.ternisien@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So ? Do I remove the icon from the patch, then you apply it, and at
> > the same time we ask the opinion of artists and usability ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Torsten Rahn
> <torsten.rahn@credativ.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 18:16:57 Will Stephenson wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Nicolas Ternisien said:
> > > > > Here is a little improvement of the patch, with a full size tab
> > > > > support (and the fix of a forgotten emitted signal)
> > > > 
> > > > Looks great, and the patch does too.  I'd say commit it.
> > > 
> > > I'd say that this still needs to get approved by the usability and
> by the
> > > oxygen people.
> > > 
> > > Torsten
> > > 
> > > > Will
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Torsten Rahn
> > > 
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> > > 
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