On Wednesday 21 November 2007 21:10, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > no, the layout is: > > Left: Maximize, Minimize, spacer, spacer, Sticky, Help, Menu (those last > three > are up to the style very much these days) > > Right: Close Every window manager I've ever worked with has had the menu button at the far left. I really don't like KDE breaking what seems to be a de facto standard like this. As far as the rest of the proposal is concerned, I don't really care - the important thing is the position of the close and menu buttons. -- David Jarvie. KAlarm author & maintainer. http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm