Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > i have, and imo it looks waaaay better without the splitters jumping out and > smacking me across the face. some of the more popular kde3 styles also did > similarly. True dat. Here's a few shots of Michael Lentner's excellent Domino style engine, which currently represents the state of the art in KDE 3 style engines in terms of graphical sophistication and meeting modern expectations of cohesive- ness rather than "blockyness": http://www.eikehein.com/konq-domino.png http://www.eikehein.com/korganizer-domino.png http://www.eikehein.com/kcmstyle-domino.png IMO it makes a pretty good case for a rather "line-free" look. I'm happy that Oxygen follows that lead, and improves over Domino with a number of unique characteristics that give it (and thus KDE) visual identity, such as the original group box design. There's obviously work left to be done, a lot even, but the direction is strategically sound. The real problem is a lack of manpower to address all the little (and not so little) corner cases the engine currently doesn't cope with. The "the last 10% of the work need 90% of the time" mantra applies to style engines, too. Surely we have more graphics-savvy coders in KDE than are currently working on the engine? -- Regards, Eike Hein, hein@kde.org