From kde-core-devel  Sat Nov 17 02:00:19 2007
From: "Robert Knight" <robertknight () gmail ! com>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:00:19 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: Release Mode
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> it would be better to use our limited time and resources to work on the real
> issues rather than derail on an issue that amounts to "the default window
> decoration doesn't do coloration yet"

As mentioned in the bug report, that isn't the only problem.  A more
important one mentioned is that it is hard to tell active and inactive
windows apart at a glance because of the lack of coloration in the
title bar - especially on PCs which do not / cannot run kwin-composite
and therefore do not have shadows under the active window.  That
probably does qualify as a show-stopper.

The window decoration for Oxygen doesn't provide a border around the
window on un-composited desktops yet either, which makes it hard to
see where one window stops and another starts.

On 16/11/2007, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo@kde.org> wrote:
> On Friday 16 November 2007, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> > Lubos Lunak wrote:
> > > On Friday 16 of November 2007, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > >> - techbase beta goals page
> > >>   http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals
> > >
> > >  Meaning specific issues, not highlevel stuff like this. For example, I
> > > consider http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152030 to be a blocker for
> > > Oxygen windeco being the default KWin decoration, but I don't consider
> > > myself to be a person to do something about it (of course, besides the
> > > obvious flipping of the default, but there's no need to go that far).
> >
> > I haven't been on IRC lately due to RL timesinks :-(... what do
> > Boemann/Pinheiro say about this? Has it been brought up on #oxygen?
>
> this was discussed on the release list at least and a few people noted
> (disclosure: i was one of them) did not see this as a show stopper, but
> merely a bug / feature ommission. there are other show stoppers in the
> oxygen
> style such as incompleteness in rendering of menus and tabs.
>
> it would be better to use our limited time and resources to work on the real
> issues rather than derail on an issue that amounts to "the default window
> decoration doesn't do coloration yet"
>
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