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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Some libraries are not found without LD_LIBRARY_PATH mangling
From:       Thiago Macieira <thiago () kde ! org>
Date:       2007-10-30 8:57:18
Message-ID: 200710300957.24681.thiago () kde ! org
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Em Monday 29 October 2007 16:46:50 Alexander Neundorf escreveu:
> On Monday 29 October 2007, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > Em Monday 29 October 2007 16:28:33 Thiago Macieira escreveu:
> > > Maybe an even better option: set LD_LIBRARY_PATH when running
> > > uninstalled. That variable overrides RUNPATH and any distribution not
> > > using that (read: using RPATH only) should be shot in the head.
> > > DT_RUNPATH has been available for more than 5 years.
> >
> > Or we can turn the flag on by ourselves: -Wl,--enable-new-dtags.
>
> Which effect does this have exacty have ?

It enables the new ELF dtags in binutils.

According to the binutils mailing list 
(http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2005-04/msg00060.html), the only two dtags 
enabled by this flag are DT_RUNPATH and DT_FLAGS. I might add also an excerpt 
from this message: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/binutils/2005-04/msg00049.html

"I don't mind DT_RUNPATH because support for this was added to glibc in
1999, which is old enough that I think most of my users have upgraded by
now"

I could not find any side effects of having DT_FLAGS turned on.

As for DT_RUNTIME, the only "side-effect" it can have is to make 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH work properly: i.e., be given preference. So, if you're 
relying on the 10-year-old broken behaviour of DT_RPATH vs LD_LIBRARY_PATH, 
you should be shot in the head. I don't think we have to support those 
people.

One more note: sometimes people are afraid of --enable-new-dtags because in 
KDE 3 we had a configure-time option --enable-new-ldflags which did two 
things:

	1) enabled --enable-new-dtags
	2) enabled --as-needed

I still think we should build with --as-needed, but that has side-effects, 
like libraries not being found at link-time (another linker option has to be 
given for linking to work properly).

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