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On Friday 19 October 2007 11:12:04 Lubos Lunak wrote:
> On Thursday 18 of October 2007, Thomas Zander wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 October 2007 13:09:19 Lubos Lunak wrote:
> > > =A0Nah. The "unfixable" part is the fact that with multiline
> > > lineedits there's no obvious minimum size (since you can stretch
> > > the width or height while reducing the other and the contents will
> > > still fit) and "can't be fixed in X11" means that the window
> > > manager spec has support for minimum size, but only for fixed
> > > minimum size and not any width-for-height size.
> > >
> > > =A0TT apparently are not willing to do anything besides a perfect fix
> > > (which is not possible as they say), but I think e.g. going with a
> > > reasonable ratio of width/height as the minimum size could work
> > > good enough for most cases.
> >
> > Speaking as a co-KDE guy; I know you are well known in the
> > window-manager area so I'm wondering what is holding up the 'perfect
> > fix' ? Can you perhaps work in the spec to make this a concept
> > available on X11?
>
>  I'm not sure. With fixed-value minimum size it's simple, both to set
> and to use. But with height_for_width minimum size, with more complex
> layouts it's probably possible to end up with more complicated rule
> than something like "height =3D 20 + width / 50". Now, the window manager
> should never be blocked by a client, meaning it can't query the client
> whenever it needs this value - so how should it technically get the
> minimum size?

Why is the rule to never query the client a hard rule? I can understand=20
there might be problems in responsiveness for some windows, but at the=20
same time the problem this thread addresses can be solved in the correct=20
manner.  I'm sure that puts some weight in the scale.
IIRC Windows implements this feature (width for height), how does it solve=
=20
the problem you put forward of querying the client? Does anyone here=20
know?

=2D-=20
Thomas Zander

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