From kde-core-devel  Sun Sep 16 16:51:21 2007
From: "Jos Poortvliet" <jospoortvliet () gmail ! com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:51:21 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: Paste special
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On 9/16/07, Hans Meine <hans_meine@gmx.net> wrote:
> On Sonntag 16 September 2007, Guillaume Laurent wrote:
> > On Sunday 16 September 2007, John Tapsell wrote:
> > > Many people don't realise that quite a few kde3 apps do actually use
> > > the clipboard quite well - if you copy from konqueror, it will provide
> > > text/html on the clipboard. But there's no way to actually paste
> > > this as text into an editor.
> >
> > How about fixing the apps instead ? To a non-techical user, this 'paste
> > special' looks quite hostile. If one copies from a browser and pastes into
> > a text-related app, one generally expects the pasted text to have as much
> > of the original formatting retained as the app allows (plain text if its a
> > text editor, formatted and colored text if it's a word processor).
>
> Not at all.  I *hate* it when I just want to grab some text from a website and
> instead get all the colors, formatting and links.  It is often similarly
> difficult to remove the formatting or change it to that of the surrounding
> document as it is to add formatting.  I think I even saw third-party tools
> (for Windows IIRC) that allow to strip off formatting from clipboard contents
> to aid in this process.
>
> IOW, I think different paste modes are really needed.  I think I would not
> call it "paste special", because I would not know what is special and what
> not, but "Paste as" or just "Paste..." with ellipsis in the menu and a
> (delayed?) menu added to the toolbar button would suit me I think.  Maybe the
> usability people have input on this, too.  BTW: I found the oocalc dialog
> for "special pasting" (Ctrl-Shift-V IIRC - cannot test ATM) quite useful.

hear hear. Yes, sometimes you want markup, sometimes not. I copy a lot
from PDF files (adobe acrobat) into my paper (MS Word) and boy, can
that be an annoying experience. I have to fix the formatting each
time. Word has a paste special, but it's pretty awkward to use, so I
fix it by hand... blegh.

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