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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Temporary KColorScheme change - hard-code some state colors
From:       "Jos Poortvliet" <jospoortvliet () gmail ! com>
Date:       2007-09-14 12:41:46
Message-ID: 5c77e14b0709140541i6b7a520di3090e4a224ff22fb () mail ! gmail ! com
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On 9/14/07, Andreas Pakulat <apaku@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 14.09.07 11:11:55, Richard Dale wrote:
> > On Friday 07 September 2007, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> > > Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> > > > Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> > > >> I'm thinking I'd like to check in the following diff as a temporary
> > > >> measure to get people thinking about active vs. inactive widget states.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is a TEMPORARY change (things will be configurable in 4.0-final
> > > >> as I've previously talked about; (1) for example), but will hopefully
> > > >> help shake people out of the KDE3 way of thinking where it was "ok" to
> > > >> not think about widget states w.r.t. the color scheme.
> > > >
> > > > Since I'm hearing complaints about the current situation (basically,
> > > > when using oxygen, can't tell active/inactive apart), I'm going to
> > > > commit this by Friday unless someone objects.
> > >
> > > Done, since no one objected.
> > I think this change is wrong because it turns your computer into a 'one window
> > at a time' system. There must be better ways of showing which is the active
> > window than changing the entire color scheme by darkening the window
> > contents. I find it fatiguing when the window contents keep changing when you
> > click on different windows - as opposed to just the window title bar changing
> > (ie more transparent, or a different color), which is the normal way to
> > indicate which window is the active one. If I want to read two documents at
> > once, I don't want one doc dimmed and the other normal.
>
> I completely agree. Also this slows down the switching between apps
> considerably, at least on my machine. And we need the title-bar-info
> about active window anyway, because
>
> a) darkening doesn't work for all widgets (kate-view for example)
> b) Its IMHO harder to see which window will gain focus while switching
> through windows with alt+tab. Especially on multi-screen setups where
> the list of windows is on one screen, but the window you want to switch
> to might be on another screen.
>
> The oxygen kwin style needs to be changed to indicate the active window
> via the titlebar (how exactly that happens, I don't care as long as it
> has good contrast to inactive windows).

Besides, repainting each window when it loses focus is bad for
performance and creates flickering, esp on lower end hardware. But
hasn't this been discussed before, and wasn't there agreement on "we
all hate it"? Or was that only on the KOffice mailinglist?

And finally, KWin can do this, the style doesn't have to. Blurring,
desaturating or darkening inactive windows seems a (compositing)
windowmanager job to me.

> Andreas
>
> --
> Celebrate Hannibal Day this year.  Take an elephant to lunch.

LOL
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