Hi, I'm officially nobody. Well, OK, I'm a long time KDE user. I know it's not terribly appropriate for me to mail kde core devel since I'm not a core developer, but the Kcontrol discussion is interesting. FWIW, I like the new settings:/ thingy, and I like the Idea of a Mac'esq' drawer, but how about two meta categories in the interface, 'most frequently used', and 'most recently used'. This would be not unlike the either / or option presented on the KPanel of the KDE 3 era. I would have loved that in the vintage Kcontrol, as it would have saved me getting flagged over by my girlfriend to change the same setting to suit her whims... As cliche as that example is... _James (Or maybe instead a Mac'esq' drawer, wasn't there some big hubba-ba-boo about being able to meta colour tag files, maybe you could extend that metaphor, and give it a meta-settings-groups... Anyway.)