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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: qt code in kdelibs?
From:       Andreas Pour <pour () knewton ! biz>
Date:       2007-05-21 22:36:50
Message-ID: 654751.92447.qm () web54109 ! mail ! re2 ! yahoo ! com
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I know most people don't like licensing threads on this list (ergo, kde-licensing) so \
I will make it short:  your analysis is flawed and the kdelibs licensing policy is \
correct.  I'll follow up in private.

Best,

Andreas

----- Original Message ----
From: Oswald Buddenhagen <ossi@kde.org>
To: kde-core-devel@kde.org
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:13:24 PM
Subject: Re: qt code in kdelibs?

On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:53:02AM -0700, Andreas Pour wrote:
> Aside from the noted problem with Apple
> 
that shouldn't be an issue, as apple does not use kdecore anyway, no?
how could they use kdelibs without a qt license otherwise, anyway?

> if you put any GPL code in kdelibs then all of kdelibs must be
> licensed under the GPL (under a common reading of the GPL)
> 
yes, the viral character.

if you use qt under gpl, kdelibs is already "infected" anyway, so it
would not matter.

> and a commercial Qt license would not help with that
> 
why? under these conditions no gpl code would be included in the first
place.

for my idea to work out, two conditions must be met:
- anybody being allowed to distribute the code in question without
  actually granting a license to use it (other than gpl, that is). that
  should be covered by the qpl/gpl+exception, no?
- buying a qt license would have to imply the right to use (older) qt
  code "extracted" and distributed separately from the purchased package.

> (in fact the commercial Qt license would probably not even apply to
> the qringbuffer_p.h included in kdelibs).
> 
now that's the catch.
ultimately, this needs to be cleared up with tt legal, i guess.

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york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new \
york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>I know most people don't like licensing \
threads on this list (ergo, kde-licensing) so I will make it short:&nbsp; your \
analysis is flawed and the kdelibs licensing policy is correct.&nbsp; I'll follow up \
in private.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Andreas<br><br><div style="font-family: times new \
roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: \
Oswald Buddenhagen &lt;ossi@kde.org&gt;<br>To: kde-core-devel@kde.org<br>Sent: \
Monday, May 21, 2007 3:13:24 PM<br>Subject: Re: qt code in kdelibs?<br><br><div>On \
Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:53:02AM -0700, Andreas Pour wrote:<br>&gt; Aside from the \
noted problem with Apple<br>&gt;<br>that shouldn't be an issue, as apple does not use \
kdecore anyway, no?<br>how could they use  kdelibs without a qt license otherwise, \
anyway?<br><br>&gt; if you put any GPL code in kdelibs then all of kdelibs must \
be<br>&gt; licensed under the GPL (under a common reading of the GPL)<br>&gt;<br>yes, \
the viral character.<br><br>if you use qt under gpl, kdelibs is already "infected" \
anyway, so it<br>would not matter.<br><br>&gt; and a commercial Qt license would not \
help with that<br>&gt;<br>why? under these conditions no gpl code would be included \
in the first<br>place.<br><br>for my idea to work out, two conditions must be \
met:<br>- anybody being allowed to distribute the code in question \
without<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;actually granting a license to use it (other than gpl, that \
is). that<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;should be covered by the qpl/gpl+exception, no?<br>- buying \
a qt license would have to imply the right to use (older) qt<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;code \
"extracted" and distributed separately from the purchased package.<br><br>&gt; (in \
fact the commercial Qt license would probably not  even apply to<br>&gt; the \
qringbuffer_p.h included in kdelibs).<br>&gt;<br>now that's the catch.<br>ultimately, \
this needs to be cleared up with tt legal, i guess.<br><br>-- <br>Hi! I'm a \
.signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please!<br>--<br>Chaos, panic, and \
disorder - my work here is done.<br></div></div><br></div></div></body></html>



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