From kde-core-devel  Thu Mar 08 22:44:24 2007
From: Thomas Zander <zander () kde ! org>
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:44:24 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: required CMake version is still 2.4.3
Message-Id: <200703082344.25185.zander () kde ! org>
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On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:09, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> >If it is possible to work on KDE with the software as it comes with your
> >distro the entry barrier to development is much lower.
>
> This "entry barrier" only exists as such because the distros *are*
> shipping cmake. If they weren't, nobody would be complaining that you
> need a newer version.

Be that as it may; the experience simply is that a lot of people only spent=
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time coding on kde/koffice because they can get it running quite fast.

Nobody ever said it was logical or even reasonable. But its the fact. As=20
Alexander said and as I have seen various volunteers say so that come on IR=
C=20
to hack.  And, sorry, real people and their opinions trump your assumptions=
=20
over their opinions every day :)

> This is the second time in as many months that you have had to intervene
> because someone unknowingly used a CMake >=3D 2.4.4 feature. If we are
> going to stay with 2.4.3, we should start then requiring that people use
> *exactly* 2.4.3, so as to avoid this kind of mistakes.
If you think that that is the only way to make people that hack cmake files=
 to=20
honor the version, then we have bigger problems ;)

> So what's stopping us from making that announcement now?

That we actually care about the inflow of new people, and keeping of curren=
t=20
people doing good work in the few hours they have per day.

Maybe you forget quickly; but think back on the dbus time when people had t=
o=20
compile a version themselves since most distros did not ship them.  Remembe=
r=20
that there were a lot less people that were committing in anything KDE4=20
releated?
There really is nothing worse then updating your stuff and finding out it=20
doesn't compile anymore and you have to waste many hours to get it to build=
=20
again.  Repeat that a couple of times and people just don't update anymore.
Again, I see this in KOffice. a lot of people don't commit anymore because =
the=20
weekly update of kdelibs was to much.

So, please. Even if you don't understand the reasoning, please accept these=
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reasons.
=2D-=20
Thomas Zander

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