From kde-core-devel  Sun Nov 19 21:28:33 2006
From: johnflux () gmail ! com
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:28:33 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: Okular moving
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Leo,
  I do agree with somewhat, but it's not as bad as you make it out.

  Any package based distro will have a meta package for kde, or kde
desktop or something.  That will pull in kdebase plus other packages
(such as konversation etc).  Distros will simply put a pdf reader in
that meta package.

John

On 19/11/06, Leo Savernik <l.savernik@aon.at> wrote:
> Am Samstag, 18. November 2006 16:32 schrieb Kevin Krammer:
> > > A KDE-desktop without a pdf-viewer? Please get real.
> > >
> > > KDE *cannot* afford to drop functionality it provided in KDE 3.x times.
> > > People are used to those and they will perceive it as a major defect of
> > > KDE 4 if it misses out on such basic functionality.
> >
> > So you want the PDF viewers to be in kdebase? workspace maybe?
>
> A useful basic KDE (3.x) distribution comprises of the packages kdelibs
> kdebase kdeaccessibility kdeadmin kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork
> kdepim
> kdeutils kdeaddons (leaving aside whether packagers split those or
> distribute
> them as they are).
>
> If you consider a KDE distribution comprising of only kdelibs+kdebase, we're
> at Microsoft Windows level, functionality wise. I'd be surprised if this is
> the direction KDE 4 is heading towards.
>
> >
> > Anything else is a matter of package dependencies, where it doesn't matter
> > which source module an application is from. Actually, since the packaging
> > of big source modules is quite broken on some distros, having the viewers
> > in KEG will allow a fullfeatured KDE desktop experience with less
> > installation size, meaning fewer applications filling the K-menu
>
> The really big problem with this approach is that people have to know
> beforehand which application they have to install to get feature X. Do you
> think that Joe User has any idea the he has to install an application called
> Okular before he can view pdfs? Especially as he didn't have to worry about
> this in KDE 3.x times where it was sufficient to install all kde* packages
> and not missing out anything.
>
> mfg
> 	Leo
>