-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 17. November 2006 18:01 schrieb Tobias Koenig: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 05:36:23PM +0000, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > Right. The problem is: none of the applications you mention can edit > > *PDF* documents. And PDF is one of the core formats handled by these > > applications we discuss in this threat. > > Well, kviewshell can't _edit_ PDF either, it uses some external > libraries to do a subset of possible tasks. > > If you want a _real_ editor you need an abstract document layout which > is loaded by the PDF parser and can be written back to file by a PDF > writer (neither the abstract document format nor the PDF writer exists > for Linux yet). I don't think we need a _real_ PDF editor, but rather an application that is able to do the most basic modifications, like -) extracting pages, -) reordering pages, -) turning some pages, -) attaching some comments at a given position (without actually modifying the contents), like a speech-bubble, -) add/remove password to the PDF, or more generally, change the DRM flags, -) etc. At least that's what I would need in my daily work here at the math department. If I write a paper myself or if I need to edit a joint paper, I have latex anyway to edit the document (which looks much nicer than any pdf editor can do) but I still might want to extract single pages. And if I receive a PDF from someone else, I don't need to modify the contents, but mainly turn pages (for scanned-in transcripts attached to job applications) or extract some pages (to distribute to my students or for inclusion into some other paper). All these were real tasks that I encountered in the last few months, and which I had to work around by either printing selected pages to PDF (not optimal, as the thumbnail and the TOC gets lost), printing turned pages out to paper so that I could read them, or printing out the whole paper and marking any suggestions on the paper version (which is then faxed to the co-author). Cheers, Reinhold - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: reinhold@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/ * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer * Chorvereinigung "Jung-Wien", http://www.jung-wien.at/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFXfcATqjEwhXvPN0RAgr1AJ93phRAfwtDKY9Q1cI6mEgz2Rw3swCggW76 snhUKpDu7gLQUpZUMfTjPoA= =YUwm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----