Stephen Leaf wrote: > Really when I said that I was referring to the language syntax more than the > state of the bindings. I've actually not done anything in perl for at least 3 > years now. never touched python or ruby. Only scripting I do now is bash and > PHP. > You should give Python and Ruby a spin. Python's syntax may be off-putting (I thought the same initially) but when you actually try to write something with it, it really doesn't get in the way. And even though I much prefer Ruby (both syntax and features), Python's single coding style is an advantage. > javascript is actually not a bad language at all.. really the only thing that > really turns most people off of it is it's relationship with web pages. and > that is because of the mess caused by different implementations. > Please. Have you looked at Javascript's "OO model" ? Javascript is suitable to script applications, not to write ones from scratch. -- Guillaume http://telegraph-road.org