From kde-core-devel  Sun Jul 23 00:51:41 2006
From: "Robert Knight" <robertknight () gmail ! com>
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:51:41 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: kutils/KEdit
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Hi,

I think it is not a good idea to judge the usefulness of a program
purely on when someone last committed to it - KEdit hasn't received
any attention because there is basically nothing to maintain.  It
consists of a text editing widget, a toolbar and a menu.

I suspect up in Redmond it has been years since Notepad was seriously
modified at all, but it still serves a useful purpose on the Windows
desktop - people need somewhere to quickly jot notes or copy and paste
a few blocks of text.

I'm really don't mind *how* KDE 4 satisfies that particular need, just
that it does.

Regards,
Robert.

On 22/07/06, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo@kde.org> wrote:
> On Saturday 22 July 2006 8:05, Jaison Lee wrote:
> > On 7/21/06, David Faure <faure@kde.org> wrote:
> > > (*) I think the last committers are more relevant than someone who hasn't
> > > committed for 4+ years :)
> >
> > This is exactly my point. This is the most motivating thing.
>
> i agree with what you're saying Jaison; and i think that these posts to
> kde-core-devel (which should be CC'd to the authors if they aren't on the
> list) is exactly such a call for maintainer input as well as input from the
> rest of the project so that we get a full perspective. no one is trying to
> shut out the maintainers; asking openly is looking for just that sort of
> input.
>
> removing things is always difficult and will always piss of someone[1], so
> talking about removing things always feels very dangerous. and talking about
> these "feels dangerous" topics so openly is largely a new thing for kde. new
> things are even more unsettling. so i assume that's where a lot of the push
> back on these things is coming from. but we'll find our ways together.
>
> in this thread i actually don't really see any dissent, just lots of violent
> agreement on a topic that's being expressed with various levels and kinds of
> assumptions (e.g. that asking on the list equates to asking for author input)
> and different perspectives ...
>
> on topic ... i just tried both kwrite and kedit. kwrite does start up faster;
> we need to work on these things. other than that, they are functionally
> equivalent IMHO including things like soft autowrapping being on by default
> in kwrite now.
>
> [1] we have millions of users; the linux desktop as a whole is apparently
> somewhere around 6% market share in north america right now(!). with those
> sorts of numbers it's impossible to please all the people all the time.
>
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