From kde-core-devel Thu Jul 06 23:04:43 2006 From: "Aaron J. Seigo" Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:04:43 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: modifier-only shortcuts Message-Id: <200607061704.48029.aseigo () kde ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=115222714016606 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--nextPart1472594.U9dObPuGff" --nextPart1472594.U9dObPuGff Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 06 July 2006 14:39, Chusslove Illich wrote: > > [: Andriy Rysin :] > > 6) the only suggestion I can do to people right now for KDE3 is to use > > smth like Ctrl+Menu (which I am using myself) or Ctrl+/ which MAY happen > > to be together on your keyboard. The problem is obvious - many keyboards > > either don't have those keys or they are not together. > > I myself use RWin only (through a bit trickery with options in Kxkb). > Incidentally, in Gnome's layout manager I can chose RWin (or any other > switcher offered by Xkb) without any trickery. I'd fully support the same > for Kxkb. i believe this is about defaults, not configurability. of course the user=20 should be allowed to change their desktop experience; but defaults are=20 another issue. > In my surrounding many people are using some half-ass ASCII transcription this is a very good question. how many people in our user base today (and=20 tomorrow?) use this and how often? because if (made up numbers) 25% of peop= le=20 use it weekly then maybe it does make sense to have the default be an=20 intrusive key combo like ctrl+shift. conversely, how many people use multiple languages / keyboard layouts that= =20 don't switch regularly (for whom an intrusive key combo would be bad)? how many people use multiple layouts for whom switching as easily as=20 ctrl+shift would be a surprise? > I personally had great experience abandoning Alt+Shift in favor of RWin, = as you are not your user. > If I sound a bit grumpy, among other things that's because I have a small > doubt that Aaron's idea, of pressing three keys and then selecting layout > from pop-up list, might not have been just a sarcasm. please, find a two key combo that doesn't cause problem for the rest of us. =2D-=20 Aaron J. Seigo Undulate Your Wantonness GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 =46ull time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com) --nextPart1472594.U9dObPuGff Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBErZcP1rcusafx20MRAhsEAJwLcV4+MpFu7sa9Q9FD8+G4b60uewCgrUSQ rmDe+ed5CwPQCGfrIWNZvgs= =aO64 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1472594.U9dObPuGff--