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On Thursday 06 July 2006 21:25, Thomas Zander wrote:
> On Thursday 6 July 2006 21:02, Andriy Rysin wrote:
> > 5) now the main agrument for things like Ctrl+Shift is convinience
>
> ...
>
> > Now imaging that you used to do that with two adjucent fingers and
> > now you have to use Ctrl+Alt+K taking two hands(!!!).
>
> I feel their pain; really. But this is a worse default for a lot of
> reasons. I mean; even ctrl-alt-x is better for you.
> There are a lot of possible combinations between a 2-hands shortcut
> and a modifier-only combination.
>
> I suggest you come up with one that works for you the people you
> share this problem with. Please note that the Ctrl-Alt-K is also
> something that can be changed by you, so please experiment and let
> your friends experiment. And let us know what works best.

You do realize that Ctrl+Alt+X (or any other latin1 character) doesn't=20
work anymore as soon as you've switched to a keyboard layout that=20
doesn't have the 'X' or has it on another key. Try setting the shortcut=20
to Ctrl+Alt+Z (which is even more convenient than Ctrl+Alt+X IMO) and=20
then switch between the German and the English keyboard layout. How=20
usable is that?

The (default) shortcut must be something which works for any keyboard=20
layout and that rules out basically all normal keys (letters, numbers=20
and symbols). Too bad there's nothing left on the left side of my=20
keyboard except for the modifier keys. Tab and space are too far away=20
to reach easily. Maybe Aaron can easily press Ctrl+Shift+Tab with his=20
left hand. I can't. A physical key shortcut might be a better solution.


Anyway, I don't see why we shouldn't make it possible to let the user=20
decide which shortcut they want to use. If they choose a=20
modifier-keys-only shortcut then they'll have to live with it. So, I'm=20
all for allowing modifier-keys-only shortcuts at least for kxkb.

OTOH, choosing a modifier-keys-only shortcut as default shortcut=20
probably isn't such a good idea for the reasons stated by others. It=20
took me months to realize why from time to time there were those=20
annoying yellow rectangles all over Konqueror.

Regards,
Ingo

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