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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: A look at GNOME 2.14, comparison to KDE
From:       Leo Savernik <l.savernik () aon ! at>
Date:       2006-02-22 17:44:36
Message-ID: 200602221844.37172.l.savernik () aon ! at
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Am Dienstag, 21. Februar 2006 23:29 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Tuesday 21 February 2006 14:00, Leo Savernik wrote:
> > Thanks. Now I see. With the change the status bar looks like if it were
> > part of the component.
>
> since the status bar shows status for the view, i fail to see the problem
> here.

Just because a widget displays information about a part doesn't make it a 
content of this part. But this is not the point. Without the frame around the 
part, the color of the webpage fades into the color of the status bar. This 
makes up for a blurry, not distinct, not clearly visually separable 
transition, causing the impression of a lack of polish.

I'll demonstrate the issue on the images you provided. Looking at 
http://bddf.ca/~aseigo/konqi_deframed3.png, you can see the status bar blur 
into the content area (attachment statusbar-blur.png).

OTOH, the column headers do *not* blur into the content area, even though 
they're using the same base color. Why? Because they *do* have a frame. It is 
a lightweight frame, but it makes the column headers clearly perceptible 
against the content (attachment colheader-nonblur.png).
>
> > I suggest that we leave KDE 3.5 as is and finetune
> > appearence for 4.0.
>
> sorry, i'm not ready to cop out and punt things out into the future like
> this. i've watched us do this version after version in the past and have
> realized that if you want to do something do it now. it's either a good
> idea now or it's not a good idea ever.

Well, my point is: Either you do the whole amount of work to make KDE really 
shine, or you leave it as is. Fixing one visual glitch by opening up another 
is not the way to enhance a stable release.

mfg
	Leo


["statusbar-blur.png" (image/png)]
["colheader-nonblur.png" (image/png)]

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