On Thursday 26 January 2006 02:08, Zack Rusin wrote:
> Short of what David just point out. I've been talking to Simon who's an
> avid vi user (with me being of course emacs fan) why we don't use
> KDevelop and one thing that we were both coming back to is: no mouse
> usage. 
I understand you here.

> Menus in IDE are really for people who just started coding because if
> you're hacking for a few hours moving your hand to the mouse every few
> minutes is just incredibly irritating and when I always shake my hand
> when I see people doing that in ide's all the time. Once you start
> working absolutely without a mouse you just can't go back. It's so much
> more convenient and less tiring.
So far I have two designs for the IDE. One does't have menus at all,
other has few of them ;)

> So yeah, when i'm working in konsole, I open my emacs, it opens pretty
> quickly and once it's open i never move my hands from the keyboard.
> That's just extremely convenient and I think that's /one/ of the main
> reasons why people still use emacs/vi. 
Ok.

> Workflow using those editors is very different.
Could you please give several things you frequently do in vi/emacs?