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On Sunday 13 November 2005 12:12, David Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday 13 November 2005 10:48 am, Matthias Ettrich wrote:
> > The Unix desktop is a mess.
>
> That's because we have all this inconvenient freedom and choice getting
> in the way.

there needs to be a ballance struck, however.

freedom and choice is good until it becomes an excuse to not cooperate on=20
issues that are so obviously in everyone's best interests to do so. likewis=
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i see it used as an excuse to not touch the underlying OS more than=20
absolutely necessary.

i personally used to be of the opinion that we *couldn't* do much below the=
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desktop layer so everything must be fixed above it.

over the last couple of years i've slowly swayed to thinking that we can't=
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afford NOT to reach down further into the stack and get our hands dirty wit=
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things lower in the OS stack. this includes hardware integration, X=20
improvements, etc. i think Trolltech is taking a nice lead here with some o=
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their investments. we (the KDE project) ought IMHO to be a bit more=20
aggressive with these things as well, though. RUDI is one possible step,=20
Kevin's hardware layer that he's been working on for KDE4 is another=20
important step, plasma's use of newer X.org features will be another.

this is getting a bit off topic from event loops, but i think the event loo=
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issue is an interesting triviality that we ought to Just Fix (but smartly,=
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not stupidly) and move on with.

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Aaron J. Seigo
GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA  EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43

=46ull time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com)

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