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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: D pointers
From:       Holger Freyther <freyther () gmx ! net>
Date:       2005-10-02 22:42:17
Message-ID: 0BCAC662-FB27-4047-A2DC-04379CFC6B12 () gmx ! net
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Am 03.10.2005 um 00:15 schrieb Michael Pyne:

> Wow, have you used KDE?  Every time I've tested GNOME in the past  
> few years
> KDE was 'faster', or at least appeared so.  Many hackers smarter  
> than I have
> invented hacks and other techniques to make KDE the best performing  
> desktop
> of its class, so I'm not sure to what mindset you're referring.


Well as I have said, it is not about speed or the extra mallocs or  
even the memory usage. It is about people being too focused on the  
'current' form of desktops (i386 platform) and declaring machines  
with <= 2Ghz as old are totally missing the development of mobile  
devices  - anyway this is off topic.

KDE's integration is also its biggest problem for entering the  
Consumer Electronics market. Have you ever tried to only use KIO in  
your application but not kdecore/kdeui?
Well that is practically impossible as we all know.
Well for Nokia it was possible to just pick Gnome VFS (pay some bucks  
to make it use DBUS instead of CORBA), simply pick Abiword and many  
other Gnome stuff and
integrate it into their CE product.

And I appologize for completely going off topic here...
(Note that this is partially addressed with KDE4)


h.




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Pyne:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE \
type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; \
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; \
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Wow, have you used \
KDE?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space">  </SPAN>Every time I've tested GNOME in the \
past few years<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV \
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; \
">KDE was 'faster', or at least appeared so.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space">  \
</SPAN>Many hackers smarter than I have<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> \
</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; \
margin-left: 0px; ">invented hacks and other techniques to make KDE the best \
performing desktop<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV \
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">of \
its class, so I'm not sure to what mindset you're \
referring.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR \
class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" \
color="#0000DD"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT \
class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">Well as I have said, it is not about speed \
or the extra mallocs or even the memory usage. It is about people being too focused \
on the 'current' form of desktops (i386 platform) and declaring machines with &lt;= \
2Ghz as old are totally missing the development of mobile devices  - anyway this is \
off topic.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR \
class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" \
color="#0000DD">KDE's integration is also its biggest problem for entering the \
Consumer Electronics market. Have you ever tried to only use KIO in your application \
but not kdecore/kdeui?</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" \
color="#0000DD">Well that is practically impossible as we all \
know.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">Well for Nokia \
it was possible to just pick Gnome VFS (pay some bucks to make it use DBUS instead of \
CORBA), simply pick Abiword and many other Gnome stuff and</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT \
class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">integrate it into their CE \
product.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" \
color="#0000DD"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR \
class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" \
color="#0000DD">And I appologize for completely going off topic \
here...</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">(Note that \
this is partially addressed with KDE4)</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT \
class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR \
class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" \
color="#0000DD"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT \
class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">h.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT \
class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR \
class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" \
color="#0000DD"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>




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