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Le Mardi 28 Juin 2005 14:17, vous avez =E9crit :
> I agree that the unixian file hierarchy is not the best way to work for
> many people and with searching and other ways to find locate it can
> indeed be used less.
> But please remember that all of us currently depend on our files/subdirs
> under our homedirs and all that stuff unixian _inside_ the homedir
> itself.
> That should never be removed, only deprecated.

I never said that I wanted to remove anything. I just want to provide anoth=
er=20
sensible way to browse your files as a desktop user.

> Wait;
> you are actually making the exact same mistake you are trying to replace,
> if I understand your statements here correctly.
> Kio-system: itself is an implementation (detail) forcing the user to
> browse that means you just replaced one forced hierarchy with another.

I disagree here... I don't consider myself as making the exact same mistake=
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(but it could easily happen of course, if the system:/ hierarchy becomes to=
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complicated and presents items not relevant for a desktop user).

Yes, I'm "replacing" (note the " because I removed nothing) on hierarchy wi=
th=20
another, but one has /var, /usr, /boot (system stuff) whereas the other one=
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try to display stuff you use when you act as a desktop user.

I'm not trying to hide the hierarchy concept, I'm trying to obtain a sensib=
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hierarchy for a desktop user... that's not the same work.

> While you may have a better default or whatever; this is ultimately not
> the way to go.  I have no problem with a system kio slave at all; but the
> user should never see the URLs that are used to access it.  For my
> convenience I'll point to searching again as a smarter way to access
> this.  There may be others, naturally.

Yes, but it's a longer term goal... Tenor for example is trying to address=
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this. That's not what I'm trying to do right now.

And let's face it, you can't do everything using search for example, you'll=
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ultimately need something to access your data and it'll surely be a=20
hierarchy.

> I would love to see kio-home implement all sorts of paths that make
> navigation easier by hiding implementation of (for example) search.
> I have a huge problem with it becoming visible for the user in any way at
> all. As soon as a gui exists that facilitates searching, which uses
> kio-slaves as a back-end, this is something that I feel we can introduce
> to our users.

Of course, we'll have to introduce it. :-)

> Not a non-intuitive url which just force the user to learn one=20
> more thing.

The user don't really care of the URL form, except if it's really complicat=
ed.
I doubt that system:/ is complicated, it looks straight-forward IMHO.

> Please keep up your great work, I like at least some of the ideas you
> pose!

Thanks. ;-)

Regards.
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K=E9vin 'ervin' Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net
"Ni le ma=EEtre sans disciple, Ni le disciple sans ma=EEtre,
Ne font reculer l'ignorance."

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