> I also think you're being a bit short sighted > presuming we wouldn't come up w/something better for 4.0 Well, I think it's really hard to find something that looks rather "neutral", modern and is widely popular at the same time. So right now Plastik is by far our best option in terms of "look". Of course our current default is better tested than Plastik itself. But this has always been the situation with any style-changes before. And although it might sound "short-sightened" to you (as I don't work on the code) I'm quite confident that once Plastik is in kdelibs, the code quality will increase ... ;-) Regards, Torsten Rahn KDE-Artist Team