From kde-core-devel Wed Sep 08 13:07:37 2004 From: Clarence Dang Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:07:37 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: File drop popup menu removal Message-Id: <200409082307.37190.dang () kde ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=109464855501235 On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 01:41 am, Gary L. Greene, Jr. wrote: > On Tuesday 07 September 2004 08:00 am, Clarence Dang wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 07:21 pm, David Faure wrote: > > > On Monday 06 September 2004 20:19, Ishai Asa wrote: > > > > Thank you all for your comments. I will try to answer all in this > > > > message. > > > > > > > > At the end of the day the previous method in which the popup showed > > > > is just plain wrong, because: > > > > > > > > 1. It IS a violation of any drag-and-drop application. Read the name: > > > > it is "drag and drop" not "drap, drop and popup". > > > > > > Tried DnD with the RMB on windows? > > > > How about an option for the Windows behaviour i.e. LMB guesses what to do > > (else takes into account keyboard modifiers) and RMB pops up that > > annoying:) menu? > > Please, no. The "do a task different with a different mouse button" > confuses the hell out of end-users that I've lab assisted for. Having two > behaviors for essentially the same action is silly, especially since it > isn't apparent for discoverability. Besides, when most folks DnD a file, > they are dragging with the left mouse button, not the right. Thus reverting > the user back to the Windows way of doing it, which IMO is flawed. But it's already similar to e.g. left clicking on a file in Konqueror opens it, while right clicking gives additional options. In Windows, I know left dragging the file on the same filesystem moves; dragging the file to another filesystem (e.g. floppy) copies. I don't get a popup slowing me down. When I'm not sure (e.g. if it's late and I can't figure out which filesystem is which :) or to create a shortcut), I right drag to get that popup. Whether or not this is completely flawed like the QWERTY layout I can't competently debate but the most important thing is that at least some people are used to it.