From kde-core-devel  Sun Dec 21 11:12:52 2003
From: Clarence Dang <dang () kde ! org>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:12:52 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: RFC on default settings
X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=107200515826383

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:41 pm, Luciano Montanaro wrote:
> On Sunday 21 December 2003 11:30, Anders Lund wrote:
> > I'd rather see window decorations designed with use rated over looks,
> > since there are maximize buttons in them.
>
> windows all have a maximize button, and no shade button.
>
There's RMB/Shade.

> > > 2. Konsole: only visually indicate a beep in the konsole tabs - never
> > > actually play KDE_Beep_Beep.wav.  Beeping at the user just because s/he
> > > pressed backspace at the cmdline line or scrolled too far in Vi is not
> > > friendly at all and borders on annoying.
> >
> > Please no. The beep is there by tradition, and is a very usefull
> > notification. Many users are hiding all the GUI of konsole, which makes
> > the visual alternative redundant.
>
> If a noisy kde is a problem, I'd rather remove or tone down the startup and
> shutdown sounds... think of an office in the morning with tens of
> coumputers playing chords.
>
Which is one of the reasons while I (usually) compile --without-arts.  But 
when arts is compiled in (and konsole has the default settings), the main 
problem is this:

scroll in vi and hit the bottom
*beep*
(better start typing some text)
*beep* *beep* *beep* *beep*
(oops, I'm in the wrong mode; switch into Insert mode to backspace the mess)
*beep*
(due to backspacing at the start of the line)

*beep*

Clarence goes crazy.