From kde-core-devel  Sun Sep 21 11:39:40 2003
From: Alexander Kellett <lypanov () kde ! org>
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:39:40 +0000
To: kde-core-devel
Subject: Re: Proposal: Encouraging DB-using applications
X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=106414445921655

On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 11:08:31AM +0200, Guillaume Laurent wrote:
> > Yes, all of these can be implememnted by grepping a few text files.
> > But
> >
> > a) That doesn't scale
> 
> It scales more than enough for the amount of data a typical user will ever 
> have to handle.

agreed.

> > b) That's ugly ;-)
> 
> Who cares, we need something which works, is easy to maintain and reliable.

fully agreed. imo sql is just crap crap crap
(for this app domain, though personally i 
 just hate it for everything, non relational
 xml dbs are just way cuter...)

> > c) That's actually harder!
> 
> Come on. It can become harder if you actually have fairly complex queries to 
> do. In most cases, it won't.

its the serialization thats the bitch, complex 
queries just aren't very frequent, and if they
are you usually just did some terrible app/db
design. 

serialization isn't tackled well at all in kde at 
the moment. maybe people should think of this problem 
(versioning, large data sets that shouldn't need to
be fully deserialized etc) rather than adding this 
sql crap to kde apps. 

basically we need lazy-loading persistance 
for hashs, and more complex data structures 

(qt base types, and some serialisation methods 
 for your own stuff, yet more virtuals would 
 suck though, not sure of the best way of 
 doing this in c++, interfaces would be nice...).

oh yeah. and i like invented terminology, 
i don't have a clue about this app domain
from a non practical perspective.

mvg,
Alex