Am Thursday 04 September 2003 01:16 pm schrieb Martijn Klingens: Hi, > Why not? If you distrust an application you can just as well distrust the > entire system, since an untrusted application can just as well install a > key logger and pass a separate 'credit card password' to whoever is > interested. In short the benefit of kwallet is neither to save users from malicious root users or malicious "roommates" but _only_ from information leakage in case of physical loss e.g. theft and from abuse of backups. IMHO protection of the backups and the protection in case of theft incl. the added usability improvments make the real benefit of kwallet. Any try to turn kwallet into a security device to serve further purposes is doomed to fail. Yours, -- martin P.S.: Attacks via backups is _very_ common with professional intruders. In addition in most companies backup is done via an unencrypted transfer over the network ;-) Dipl.-Phys. Martin Konold e r f r a k o n Erlewein, Frank, Konold & Partner - Beratende Ingenieure und Physiker Nobelstrasse 15, 70569 Stuttgart, Germany fon: 0711 67400963, fax: 0711 67400959 email: martin.konold@erfrakon.de