From kde-core-devel Thu Jul 31 09:03:19 2003 From: Bernhard Reiter Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:03:19 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: KDE difficult on requirements X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=105964235332516 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--Boundary-02=_btNK/9bfyYVCw7t" --Boundary-02=_btNK/9bfyYVCw7t Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline > Am Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2003 18:36 Ralf Nolden wrote: > > > > KDE is way less complicated than any other piece of software when it > > > > comes to requirements. And I answered: > > > Reading that sentence alone makes me laugh. On Wednesday 30 July 2003 19:33, Martin Konold wrote: > Technically KDE is a much easier framework to create powerful applications > in a short timeframe with limited ressources.=20 Compared to what? The problem with Ralf's original statement is=20 that he compares KDE's (build) requirements to that of _any_ other piece of software, not limited to comparable desktop environments or GNOME. Given the difficulties that I personally experienced over years, KDE's requirements are complicated by absolute standards. Even if geared towards desktop environments, which would need a detailed in depth comparison I doubt that KDE comes out on top with (build) requirements. It might come up on top in other criteria, this is not the right threads to go into the details. > The stability and maintainance of older versions=20 > is exceptional withing KDE. We even still > provide patches for old KDE 2. I never said that KDE is bad in any way, it is good. Nevertheless there is room for improvements. (I've described that in more detail in other subthreads.) --Boundary-02=_btNK/9bfyYVCw7t Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIG5zCCA24w ggLXoAMCAQICAQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2 YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDMwHhcNMDMwNjI4MTczMjAxWhcNMDgwNjI3 MTczMjAxWjA2MQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEYMBYGA1UECgwPSW50ZXZhdGlvbiBHbWJIMQ0wCwYDVQQD DARaUyA0MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQD43bxDYhcb0rC4InYfDPX+TCd+TBVU fzCjsS4e6LS3Xmf3kC9W0LtcvBtYDhwU1pjYgAQUZy3qEOkicQcgP6CzileDs9uzZ15n+Nd1Ye6g xAoEtxY4TDm9J1FsNRycuHPNvOVcF8X/TtWGG1Fw1H+w4RBNUTvm6wKdRc+E1DXSlQIDAQABo4IB gzCCAX8wDwYDVR0TAQH/BAUwAwEB/zALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwawYDVR0fBGQwYjBgoF6gXIZabGRh cDovL2NhLmludGV2YXRpb24ub3JnL2NuPVd1cnplbCBaUyAzLCBvPUludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSCwg Yz1ERT9jZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9jYXRpb25MaXN0MB0GA1UdDgQWBBTpC2Y1APybXfobl6bvbeei CAqfFjBlBgNVHSMEXjBcgBSg1pV9tld6qf8t9ZykEbqfB+8Jz6FBpD8wPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUx GDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDOCAQAwNQYDVR0R BC4wLIEQY2FAaW50ZXZhdGlvbi5kZYYYaHR0cDovL2NhLmludGV2YXRpb24ubmV0MDUGA1UdEgQu MCyBEGNhQGludGV2YXRpb24uZGWGGGh0dHA6Ly9jYS5pbnRldmF0aW9uLm5ldDANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQQFAAOBgQCnwZPGbBIMrPLMXW3Z6w4JPiW/Crd8hR3He8BPY5N7u3ZRSo+mdkAzZ8YwfIJ9Fipj cl2IxQstvE38NAWFdsogdTMOJODVdJpjFEVcVK/u8bZOKismP4eo8X9Y4m0p+WMCG7C6PNMM/+l/ uawHwEbZs4Lp1leIeI8v2/QFP6nMWDCCA3EwggLaoAMCAQICAQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwNjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDENMAsGA1UEAwwEWlMgNDAeFw0w MzA2MzAxNjE3MzVaFw0wNTA2MjkxNjE3MzVaMEExCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRgwFgYDVQQKEw9JbnRl dmF0aW9uIEdtYkgxGDAWBgNVBAMTD0Jlcm5oYXJkIFJlaXRlcjCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOB jQAwgYkCgYEAxfEm4PybLti0jk+zmKPB+9Qu+nyjfsOf+VQ2/q5wPlGgQlAmA1xfjfAWCfS7KR1i 3BZmsx/HzW1dv1gNAVqYIk0V0Ls9TGJr8Z0IW1hR0UXY7qRCGAFJwiIKj0kwJepMpH22K/jHjQcn RX8VOdBo8dXyJPQcWcHkj2W8vdonrzUCAwEAAaOCAYIwggF+MAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDgYDVR0P AQH/BAQDAgXgMGQGA1UdHwRdMFswWaBXoFWGU2xkYXA6Ly9jYS5pbnRldmF0aW9uLm9yZy9jbj1a UyA0LCBvPUludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSCwgYz1ERT9jZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9jYXRpb25MaXN0ME8G CWCGSAGG+EIBDQRCFkBFLU1haWwgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGVzIGZvciBJbnRldmF0aW9uIGFuZCBmcmll bmRzIChub24tcHJvZHVjdGlvbikuMB0GA1UdDgQWBBSkusKJJedJL1PF+eXAiDJj6tJ9sDBlBgNV HSMEXjBcgBTpC2Y1APybXfobl6bvbeeiCAqfFqFBpD8wPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoM D0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDOCAQEwIQYDVR0RBBowGIEWYmVy bmhhcmRAaW50ZXZhdGlvbi5kZTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQAd4yqTmH1n1flB/7NtXTlYh5nl x/dS6qALdMLB0ZdSuPKsargeb+Nb7VQ2uL8+N9c1N2unMn6mTeNtrXx98/gkGgQlLAyfEZ7JRX2y 28zFpAM/n1nay//M6Q+nUC28QwvfaxzPsIZo3t5+wC1RZcRndCOlBMSbmpmHwcf72Log7TGCATww ggE4AgEBMDswNjELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDENMAsGA1UE AwwEWlMgNAIBATAHBgUrDgMCGqBdMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBR7+xMczog3Ecxw+GTmn40EwYPP 8DAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wMzA3MzEwOTAzMTla MAsGCSqGSIb3DQEBAQSBgGjxpSInQ3bVpvubVyAhBr/nL9Wnc9VSTuAP2uMbxiCKM1rJ7k6/vnrW V6jmQ1qmfSgR+IVe+DqnsxPaVrrmXx/qxGuqe4tZIuVOjQisq9P6YfB7QbzJn6PgRePpyIw/vvQP HyxehEXvrfqTgP7IP6jQNyl+YFA4AUoA+onVzeymAAAAAAAA --Boundary-02=_btNK/9bfyYVCw7t--