On Tuesday 29 July 2003 21:57, Guillaume Laurent wrote: > That's the whole point : more often than not, you can't practice > those theories. Why not? Please explain. You can't go around claiming that layering and fixing causes instead of symptoms doesn't work in practice and not provide evidence. This very poor PR: "KDE can only fix symptoms, not causes of bugs in it's code". If up to now you've only experienced that both don't work, then the standard fix is to hire an external coach to show how to _make_ them work ;-) Granted, if some developers in a project willingly or accidently violate layering (or any other guidelines), then layering can't work. The solution is to educate such developers, not to proclaim that the process doesn't work. Marc -- Silent leges inter arma -- Cicero