From kde-core-devel Mon Jul 28 09:46:24 2003 From: Bernhard Reiter Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:46:24 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: Qt 3.2 requirement X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=105938567614540 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--Boundary-02=_0DPJ/qc+4b2MNSb" --Boundary-02=_0DPJ/qc+4b2MNSb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 25 July 2003 23:36, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Freitag, 25. Juli 2003 22:08, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > KDE libs should have their own stability criteria and not getting forced > > by the QT schedule. You unnecessarily force all the developers to test = QT. > > Don't you realize that it's way harder to force the developers to stick > with an older Qt than for the others to grab and compile a newer Qt ? They > want to use things like QSplashScreen, see the recent other mails here. It goes to the core of a something I criticise about the KDE development pr= ocess. (As flames often ignite faster than I like, let me add that I mean friendly= criticism. It is meant to help improving the already nicely working process not bashin= g it.) Naturally some people want to play with new stuff, that is perfectly fine. Others want to keep stuff stable, that's also a worthwhile goal. As KDE gets bigger and more successful or widespread with users the latter group is growing in size. If your force the latter group,=20 you put a limit on the stability you can reach. One approach to help this, would be to increase to have each software layer "defend" its own goals against the other layers. This not yet a full worked out proposal, just an idea on how it might work. --Boundary-02=_0DPJ/qc+4b2MNSb Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIG5zCCA24w ggLXoAMCAQICAQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2 YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDMwHhcNMDMwNjI4MTczMjAxWhcNMDgwNjI3 MTczMjAxWjA2MQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEYMBYGA1UECgwPSW50ZXZhdGlvbiBHbWJIMQ0wCwYDVQQD DARaUyA0MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQD43bxDYhcb0rC4InYfDPX+TCd+TBVU fzCjsS4e6LS3Xmf3kC9W0LtcvBtYDhwU1pjYgAQUZy3qEOkicQcgP6CzileDs9uzZ15n+Nd1Ye6g xAoEtxY4TDm9J1FsNRycuHPNvOVcF8X/TtWGG1Fw1H+w4RBNUTvm6wKdRc+E1DXSlQIDAQABo4IB gzCCAX8wDwYDVR0TAQH/BAUwAwEB/zALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwawYDVR0fBGQwYjBgoF6gXIZabGRh cDovL2NhLmludGV2YXRpb24ub3JnL2NuPVd1cnplbCBaUyAzLCBvPUludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSCwg Yz1ERT9jZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9jYXRpb25MaXN0MB0GA1UdDgQWBBTpC2Y1APybXfobl6bvbeei CAqfFjBlBgNVHSMEXjBcgBSg1pV9tld6qf8t9ZykEbqfB+8Jz6FBpD8wPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUx GDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDOCAQAwNQYDVR0R BC4wLIEQY2FAaW50ZXZhdGlvbi5kZYYYaHR0cDovL2NhLmludGV2YXRpb24ubmV0MDUGA1UdEgQu MCyBEGNhQGludGV2YXRpb24uZGWGGGh0dHA6Ly9jYS5pbnRldmF0aW9uLm5ldDANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQQFAAOBgQCnwZPGbBIMrPLMXW3Z6w4JPiW/Crd8hR3He8BPY5N7u3ZRSo+mdkAzZ8YwfIJ9Fipj cl2IxQstvE38NAWFdsogdTMOJODVdJpjFEVcVK/u8bZOKismP4eo8X9Y4m0p+WMCG7C6PNMM/+l/ uawHwEbZs4Lp1leIeI8v2/QFP6nMWDCCA3EwggLaoAMCAQICAQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwNjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDENMAsGA1UEAwwEWlMgNDAeFw0w MzA2MzAxNjE3MzVaFw0wNTA2MjkxNjE3MzVaMEExCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRgwFgYDVQQKEw9JbnRl dmF0aW9uIEdtYkgxGDAWBgNVBAMTD0Jlcm5oYXJkIFJlaXRlcjCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOB jQAwgYkCgYEAxfEm4PybLti0jk+zmKPB+9Qu+nyjfsOf+VQ2/q5wPlGgQlAmA1xfjfAWCfS7KR1i 3BZmsx/HzW1dv1gNAVqYIk0V0Ls9TGJr8Z0IW1hR0UXY7qRCGAFJwiIKj0kwJepMpH22K/jHjQcn RX8VOdBo8dXyJPQcWcHkj2W8vdonrzUCAwEAAaOCAYIwggF+MAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDgYDVR0P AQH/BAQDAgXgMGQGA1UdHwRdMFswWaBXoFWGU2xkYXA6Ly9jYS5pbnRldmF0aW9uLm9yZy9jbj1a UyA0LCBvPUludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSCwgYz1ERT9jZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9jYXRpb25MaXN0ME8G CWCGSAGG+EIBDQRCFkBFLU1haWwgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGVzIGZvciBJbnRldmF0aW9uIGFuZCBmcmll bmRzIChub24tcHJvZHVjdGlvbikuMB0GA1UdDgQWBBSkusKJJedJL1PF+eXAiDJj6tJ9sDBlBgNV HSMEXjBcgBTpC2Y1APybXfobl6bvbeeiCAqfFqFBpD8wPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoM D0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDOCAQEwIQYDVR0RBBowGIEWYmVy bmhhcmRAaW50ZXZhdGlvbi5kZTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQAd4yqTmH1n1flB/7NtXTlYh5nl x/dS6qALdMLB0ZdSuPKsargeb+Nb7VQ2uL8+N9c1N2unMn6mTeNtrXx98/gkGgQlLAyfEZ7JRX2y 28zFpAM/n1nay//M6Q+nUC28QwvfaxzPsIZo3t5+wC1RZcRndCOlBMSbmpmHwcf72Log7TGCATww ggE4AgEBMDswNjELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDENMAsGA1UE AwwEWlMgNAIBATAHBgUrDgMCGqBdMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBRPKVxGdIRJEF9WjpKqf8+HwshO dTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wMzA3MjgwOTQ2MjRa MAsGCSqGSIb3DQEBAQSBgD5d8K4cU6uiP5EKaOK+e43ohdTSZaNDRsX4i2k4Np4OH3Jeg059uY0d QJ4XkXuGdor3t/sBwfwwCr3jGri4dZJibG6vlZY/eb/03QUINq5aevIrdIVsaPv4maBF7rpwqsu1 qcxYf3BZF3r7uRdNwnc4CtptZqX7MrXuZV+BrvRRAAAAAAAA --Boundary-02=_0DPJ/qc+4b2MNSb--